Author Topic: DLA to destroy once fired brass before selling as scrap  (Read 12238 times)

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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 05:48:25 AM »
Wrote my congressman on this one.  Government waste in this ressesion?  Tell me it isn't so.
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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 06:23:26 AM »
Wrote my congressman on this one.  Government waste in this ressesion?  Tell me it isn't so.

Ain't gummint waste - this is bho's doing. He can't get a gun ban passed in Congress, so he is using the bureaucracy to do his dirty work. We were thinking big - Dept. of Commerce, OSHA, etc., never even knew about this one until now.

More to come, stay tuned . . .  >:(
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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 06:38:31 AM »
Just read Jim Shepherd's Shooting Wire, has a number of good points. Available here: http://www.shootingwire.com/

FTA:

"For months, anyone who's proffered the position that the Obama Administration was anti-gun has been dismissed as being a variety of things, from sore loser to rampant paranoid. Nonetheless, since assuming office, members of the Obama administration have steadily- and stealthily- moved against firearms and ammunition.
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All of us need to start contacting our elected representatives -and telling them, quite directly, that we're not going to put up with a move that not only curtails access to ammunition (nearly all .223 and .308 manufacturing capacity is tied up to satisfy the needs of the military) for civilians - but wastes taxpayers' money turning usable surplus into scrap metal.

Reducing the ammo brass to scrap reduces the value of the metal/surplus by nearly eighty percent. It also means that recast brass - in shippable form - may be shipped to China, one of the largest markets for U.S. metals on the world market.

If this is allowed to go unchallenged, anyone who owns a modern or traditional rifle in .223 or .308 calibers will see the impact- probably sooner than later.

"Anyone" in this context means everyone from recreational shooters to law enforcement trainers.

Pulling military brass out of the consumer supply chain means that all the manufacturing capacity being dedicated to meeting the military need will effectively become unavailable to civilians - forever.

Export rulings, lead bans, and brass mutilation orders from separate areas of the federal government look coincidental - on the surface. I'm not big on conspiracy theories - partially because I doubted the new administration would have gotten its collective act together so rapidly.

Seems I've been wrong on that one - and mistakenly using the word "hoard" when talking about the nearly-insatiable demand for ammunition that continues across the country. Today, laying up of ammunition might be better described as prudent preparation for possible problems."

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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 06:50:18 AM »
So show me where BHO did it... All I have seen is conjecture.

I don't care for Obama, but blind finger pointing gets us no where.
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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 08:37:44 AM »
Pathfinder your absolutely right. I don't believe for a second that this policy just popped up so we could have a greener Earth, or China needed more brass for manufacturing and we are helping them out, or a myriad of other possible scenarios. This is all part of the "squeeze play" that this admin is going to execute. This is all good Chicago politics.

So lets keep track here of the policies that "just happened" in the first 50 days of the new admin.

1. no lead ammo (or fishing lures) in the National Parks.
2. export ban on ammo
3. no flow of brass from military for reloading

Hmmmm....all a coincidence? Me thinks not. I also think more to come....You don't have to have a law to put people out of business. Just go ask the guys who didn't pay the mobster to pick up his trash. Your business can come to a crashing halt over a little thing like that. I expect BHO to pull every little governmental string he can.

Tab, I have no evidence that BHO did these. Like he gave an explicit order to do it. But you know what? Its a big government and the upper echelons are all BHOs men and women now. Not everything has to be said or signed. They ALL know what the marching orders are. They all know how to suck up to the boss man. This administration (all couple of thousand top appointments) are the enemies of gun owners. Collectively they are BHO.

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Re: DLA to destroy once fired brass before selling as scrap
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Re: Federal Directive to Destroy Fired Military Cases in .223 & .308
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 11:56:50 AM »
See the thread on Cafe .. scraping brass... The directive applies to ALL military brass. None of it can be used for reloading.

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Re: Federal Directive to Destroy Fired Military Cases in .223 & .308
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 01:28:27 PM »
Hello and thanks.  That's what I was afraid of, that it would be expanded.

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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 05:40:35 PM »
How do you know it didn't come from bush?

its just as likly that it was a policy that was created under his watch...

oh yeah

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=435840
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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 07:08:26 PM »
To paraphrase Apocalypse Now -

Feel that?

Do you feel that?

That's the feeling of water being raised a few more degrees.

And there's always (at least) 1 in the crowd who enjoys the added heat.

The comments at THR pretty much put the original post in the thread to BS - the DoD is calling for destruction before scrapping.

But believe what you want. I went out and paid freakin' retail for 500 each of Hornady 7.62 and 5.56 FMJBT. I will find the brass to go with them.
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Re: Government scraping ammo brass not going to be sold
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 07:30:42 PM »
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