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fightingquaker13

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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2009, 10:52:19 AM »
Our local daily paper ran this story yesterday, and it is gone today.  I was surprised by the number that thought it was rediculous not to allow concealed carry.  However, to this day I get shocked by the numbers that still cling to the idea that without concealed carry around they are safer and there will be no guns.  The sheep will not accept the idea that the bad guys will do what they want, when they want, where they want.

I had a discussion with one of our Pastors last week.  I told her the guy that was going to help at a service was a retired Chief of Police from the community where he lives.  She was concerned that he might carry until she realized I said he was retired.  It totally went over her head that retired or not he might still carry.  Then she noticed a look on my face and said you don't bring a gun in the Church ... You haven't brought a gun to Church ... Don't tell me if you bring a gun to Church.  All I said to her was the worn out phrase "Concealed means concealed, and you will never know if I'm carrying unless you are around when it is needed."  She followed up with "Do you have one now ... Don't tell me!"


In fairness, I don't carry in church either. I don't even know if is legal in Fl. (I probably should). I just choose not to. I figure if I believe enough to go in the first place, that it shows disrespect to the Boss to bring a weapon. Thats just my choice, not a reccomendation, but I get where your pastors coming from.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2009, 10:57:38 AM »


In fairness, I don't carry in church either. I don't even know if is legal in Fl. (I probably should). I just choose not to. I figure if I believe enough to go in the first place, that it shows disrespect to the Boss to bring a weapon. Thats just my choice, not a reccomendation, but I get where your pastors coming from.
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Think about what I said  ::)

Did I say I carried or not  ::)

What I'm doing is using that recent situtation to demonstrate the reaction of some to the idea of guns ... They have no idea.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2009, 10:58:33 AM »
FQ13,

It's legal in FL.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2009, 11:09:55 AM »
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Sorry. I didn't mean that as a slam on you, its just that I wanted t make the point that some folks who think carrying a gun to one venue is inappropriate are not necessarily anti-gun. I don't know your pastor so I don't have clue what her position is. I also know that in a situation like the one in Aurora Colorado, where some nut shot up an Evangelical youth hostel after making anti-church statements, I'd have been carrying so much hardware I'd clink when I walked in on Sunday,just as the parishioners did at the church where he was shot. As I said, not a slam, just understadning that we can't always assume that there is a correlation between a persons personal choices and how they vote.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2009, 02:59:53 PM »
once again there will be no accountability for activist judges.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2009, 05:27:19 PM »
This isn't judicial activism, there was no interpretation of statute or Constitution involved.

Go reread fightingquaker's post about what constitutes a TRO.  However I might dislike it, the judge was nowhere near out of line.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2009, 07:15:16 PM »


In fairness, I don't carry in church either. I don't even know if is legal in Fl. (I probably should). I just choose not to. I figure if I believe enough to go in the first place, that it shows disrespect to the Boss to bring a weapon. Thats just my choice, not a reccomendation, but I get where your pastors coming from.
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Only if you're a bad guy and intend to do evil things with it.  If you carry for the good fight and protection from said evil, I'd like to think God would look favorably on you for being a willing sheepdog among His flock. My two cents in the collection plate.
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2009, 07:47:11 PM »


In fairness, I don't carry in church either. I don't even know if is legal in Fl. (I probably should). I just choose not to. I figure if I believe enough to go in the first place, that it shows disrespect to the Boss to bring a weapon. Thats just my choice, not a reccomendation, but I get where your pastors coming from.
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The water keeps rising until he is on the roof and a helicopter drops a ladder to him. But again he replies "no thank you, GOD will save me"

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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2009, 08:26:43 PM »
Only if you're a bad guy and intend to do evil things with it.  If you carry for the good fight and protection from said evil, I'd like to think God would look favorably on you for being a willing sheepdog among His flock. My two cents in the collection plate.

I'm going to roll with you on this one Fatman.  I don't read anywhere in The Book where it says we are supposed to be door mats.  My pennies thrown in with yours.........
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Re: No ccw in nat. parks
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2009, 08:33:40 PM »
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