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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 10:25:33 AM »
The danger becomes the government - they decide who is a criminal and/ or mentally unfit.
Governments have alway been the biggest mass murders.
Our government has murdered our own many times, from experiments with syphillis on a black town to radiation - all done with full knowledge of the outcome.
Second amendment, whats left of it, along with other rights were to protect us from government and Hitler want a bees.
The now beginning financial distaster in our economy is also a consequence of power hungry politicians.

Amen, Brother. One little quibble though, the economic disaster will not be allowed to happen, because it is all about the money these days. No one in power wants to see their economic base destroyed, so it will be averted, or minimized, so the rich and powerful stay that way.

The only way the economics can fail is if someone wants them to fail, to destroy or punish their rivals or us uppity peons.
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2007, 04:09:45 PM »
This jerk is just like one of the justices that sit on the supreme court, you have to have 1 jackass or they all look bad and it looks like some kind of conspiracy or a bunch of gun nuts. I give little credance to the article and wont worry about him.
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 10:29:25 PM »
Now we are going back to 1934????  So, guys, what orgainization out there is better or has more influence than the NRA?  Tell me and I will join them today.  The NRA is the only game in town, like them or not.  Yeah, they have done things in the past that they should not have done.  But they basically tried to stay out of politics completely untill the 60s!  If not for the NRA, you would have no gun rights today, period.  You can choose to not believe that if you want to, but that is the truth. 

Sooooo, if we present you with material "ripped from today's headlines"--the NRA Complicity with voice votes to expand Brady Bill
NICS checks against a large population of potentially innocent people, you look the other way.

If we present you with the thoughts of a BOARD MEMBER, you declare him insignificant.

If we remind you those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it with an NRA  quote from 1934 you declare that old news.

Tell me, is there anything we can say or do or not say or not do that will remind you the 76 million gunowners (out of some 80 million)  who take the 2nd Amendment seriously do not endorse or join the NRA, America's oldest gun confiscation advocacy group?

The NRA does to the 2nd Amendment Community the same thing other "community leaders"  (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, CAIR) do to their repective communities: stifle the true thoughts and feelings of the majority in favor of a carefully scripted point of view that fixes things that are not broken until they are ruined beyond repair.

The NRA- always available when you do not need them and never around when you do.

What organization has more influence than the NRA? The 76 million American gunowners who belong to the unorganized militia.

Let the word go forth from this time and place the torch has passed to a new generation of Americans, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, and unwilling to witness or permit the slow erosion of those freedoms America's sons and daughters have died to defend around the world.

We ain't interested in your Grandfather's NRA. Pass the word.

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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 11:11:45 PM »
Are you talking about the 76 million gun owners that just voted in the liberal Democrats?  Or just stayed at home on their butts instead of voting at all? The same bunch that will look the other way when those same liberals ban your guns because the liberals view the NRA  the same as you?  What politician would dare to stand up to 80 million people, untied in one voice?  But, no, only 4 million do the work of 80 million.  And when something gets passed you don't like the first thing you cry is where was the NRA? 

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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2007, 12:50:37 AM »
All tipoes and misspelings are copi-righted.  Pleeze do not reuse without ritten persimmons  :D

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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2007, 01:35:42 AM »
   

 
Statement of Joaquin Jackson


 

Recently, concerns have been raised in response to statements made by NRA Board Member Joaquin Jackson to Texas Monthly in 2005. We have received questions from NRA members who are seeking clarity as to NRA’s positions on the subject matter discussed in Mr. Jackson’s interview. To be clear, NRA supports the right of all law-abiding citizens to Keep and Bear Arms for all lawful purposes. We will continue, as we have in the past, to vigorously oppose any efforts to limit gun ownership by law-abiding citizens as an unconstitutional infringement on our Second Amendment freedoms. These efforts include opposition to any attempts to ban firearms, including firearms incorrectly referred to as "assault weapons", and any attempts to place arbitrary limits on magazine capacity.

For more information on NRA's legislative efforts to protect and defend the Second Amendment, please visit www.NRAILA.org  and www.Clintongunban.com.

 

 

STATEMENT OF JOAQUIN JACKSON

 

Recently, some misunderstandings have arisen about a news interview in which I participated a few years ago.  After recently watching a tape of that interview, I understand the sincere concerns of many people, including dear friends of mine.  And I am pleased and eager to clear up any confusion about my long held belief in the sanctity of the Second Amendment.

 

In the interview, when asked about my views of “assault weapons,” I was talking about true assault weapons – fully automatic firearms.  I was not speaking, in any way, about semiautomatic rifles.  While the media may not understand this critical distinction, I take it very seriously.  But, as a result, I understand how some people may mistakenly take my comments to mean that I support a ban on civilian ownership of semiautomatic firearms.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  And, unfortunately, the interview was cut short before I could fully explain my thoughts and beliefs.

 

In fact, I am a proud owner of such rifles, as are millions of law-abiding Americans.  And many Americans also enjoy owning fully automatic firearms, after being cleared by a background check and meeting the rigorous regulations to own such firearms.  And these millions of lawful gun owners have every right – and a Second Amendment right – to own them.

 

As a hunter, I take great pride in my marksmanship.  Every hunter should practice to be skilled to take prey with a single shot, if possible.  That represents ethical, humane, skilled hunting.  In the interview several years ago, I spoke about this aspect of hunting and my belief that no hunter should take the field and rely upon high capacity magazines to take their prey.

 

But that comment should never be mistaken as support for the outright banning of any ammunition magazines.  In fact, such bans have been pursued over the years by state legislatures and the United States Congress and these magazine bans have always proven to be abject failures.

 

Let me be very clear.  As a retired Texas Ranger, during 36 years of law enforcement service, I was sworn to uphold the United States Constitution.  As a longtime hunter and shooter, an NRA Board Member, and as an American – I believe the Second Amendment is a sacred right of all law-abiding Americans and, as I stated in the interview in question, I believe it is the Second Amendment that ensures all of our other rights handed down by our Founding Fathers.

 

I have actively opposed gun bans and ammunition and magazine bans in the past, and I will continue to actively oppose such anti-gun schemes in the future.

 

I appreciate my friends who have brought this misunderstanding to light, for it has provided me an opportunity to alleviate any doubts about my strong support for the NRA and our Second Amendment freedom.

 
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2007, 01:37:46 AM »
As the above statement makes clear, some folks are only too quick to jump to judgement and condemn the NRA and it's members. 
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 08:57:08 AM »
Here is the official answer

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?ID=9899
Thanks Haz for the link, its good to know what the real view is. I can not BELIEVE that the media would contort info for their own gains.  >:(  Nope Just Can Not Be Man!  :-\  I am not one to forgive anybody for offending the gun rights of anybody, but to change a dudes words around and expect me to group him with Zumbo, Hilliary, Rosies and other gun/freedom grabbers ....... cant do it. As for the 76million non NRA members. If the NRA's membership was free and they(NRA) did all the leg work, along with running the ship only on donations, the membership would SPIKE in my opinion 10fold. But the NRA is "Big Business" and that will not happen.     
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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2007, 11:16:30 AM »
Sure am glad he cleared the air with that explanation.  ::)  Since he stated he was considering only full autos to be assault weapons and that the magazine capacity limit he talked about was purely for hunting regs only, then at the end of the clip he must be advocating hunting with full autos, as long as it has a 5 round limit.

His words in the interview were.
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as far as assault weapons to a civilian, it's alright as long as you got that magazine capacity down to five"

I'm not trying to bash the NRA here at all, I think without them we would be screwed, I just hope they don't get too many board members with this guys views.  Or if you accept his explanation, then I hope they don't get too many board members with his lack of communication skills while giving interviews.

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Re: Interesting words from an NRA board member
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2007, 05:34:13 PM »
Thank you for the update, I met Joaquin just before fathers day last year at a Dallas, Tx gunshow, and bought 2 copies of his book, that he signed for me. Seemed very straight forward, unfortunately, we only talked for about 5 minutes. Good book too.

What this discussion has brought up though is who's running our business? Well the people we either worked for to get elected to Congress, the Senate, The Presidency, the board of directors for the NRA, the board of directors of our local gun club, our mayor, our city council, our county sheriff, our local school board, etc...   OR the PEOPLE  who worked while we played to get the people they wanted in those positions. I was like most until 1994 election year and I got a crash course in politics. To get people you want, first you have to find them, then they have to be willing to do the job. Then you need a lot of people like you who agree on this person. ( the problem with Ron Paul, I agree with a lot of his beliefs, but sorry, he is not electable in today's United States. ) then we have to get the war chest going. Publicity of any kind. Come up with fundraising events, sign building parties, interviews, phone banks, anything to get this person on the map. Now we've just seen the tip of the iceberg.

For those people who are now elected who are not representing your views. Call them, fax them, e-mail them, show up at their office for the second amendments sake!!! Get organized locally. You would be surprised how many neighbors feel just like you, but don't feel they can make a difference. Talk to your local or national radio programs if you can find the time and bring up the 2nd amendment again and again.

Our greatest strength has been forever, the silent majority, any ideas who that is?? Voter turn out is at best 50%, no poll in the world knows what these people are thinking.  But things have to get real ugly before they turn out, and in 1994 they did, the reason was gun control..  Some of you posters are very eloquent and passionate, why not run for city council? Probably because your too busy ( I'm the same way ) but who's gonna do it in your place?

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