EVIL home defense option?

[Badgersmilk]

So here's the proposed situation.  You are away from home and your spouse hears an unusual sound or sounds from elsewhere in your home (or even if YOU are the one doing this).  She or you visually confirm at least ONE perpetrator is present.  Empty the can on said target, and regardless how many punks were in your home, NO tough guy is going to be coming down that hall or entering that end of your home for at least half an hour!

I and a few friends have playing with a much weaker version of this stuff (a cheap little key chain sprayer one of the girls had) and I can tell you just the residual lingering residue will not only blind, but nearly burn your lungs out, even burns bare skin badly.  This was OUTSIDE, and I was nowhere near the spray area until about 10 minutes after it was sprayed.  Then for your next three showers you'll get blinded all over again!  Dont underestimate the pain involved here!!!  It WILL incapacitate!

This particular can sprays for just over 9 seconds, with a range of just over 30 feet.  No wasted recoil time between shots, once the first guy is hit, their ALL going down.  They wont be getting away.  It does a great job incapaicitating when your blind, coughing your lungs out, and your on the floor in HORRIBLE pain!  A whole basket ball team could have got in your house, and again.  NOBODY is coming down that hall!  Once your wife / you spray the stuff.  Go back to the bedroom QUICK!  And call the police to come clean up the screaching, wailing idiots. 

Short of a perfect head shot (get real here!).  This stuff WILL incapacitate faster than any handgun could ever want to.  And you pretty much CANT MISS!  Once you see this stuff spray you'll understand.

[Fatman]

If it works. If it doesn't incapacitate you as well or instead. If you recover faster than the perp.

Lots of ifs. 

[Rob Pincus]

Chemical sprays can be great... but they can also fail miserably. They can also (read "most likely will" when used indoors) contaminate the user as much as the intended target. We didn't have time to address the good & the bad of Chemical Defense during the first season of TBD, but it is something that I intend to address next year. 

Meanwhile, IF you choose to have one of these cans standing by for defensive use, make sure that your immediate follow up plan involves an exit strategy that doesn't take you through the cloud. I also recommend being exposed to the exact product you are using prior to carry/staging it. You should know how it will affect you before a critical incident.

-RJP

[fullautovalmet76]

I also recommend being exposed to the exact product you are using prior to carry/staging it. You should know how it will affect you before a critical incident.
-RJP

OK. I volunteer to assault Badger with the Bear repellant so that he as some experimental reference with this product....... 

 

[1911 Junkie]

OK. I volunteer to assault Badger with the Bear repellant so that he as some experimental reference with this product....... 

 

If we start a bidding war I bet we could raise enough money to pay off the national debt.
Badger, do your patriotic duty!

[Sponsor]

[callithump]

The little woman would be better off using a fire extinguisher or wasp killer. Actually if my wife was in that situation I'd hope she had really armed herself. Cleaning up pepper spray is not for the faint of heart.

[TAB]

Having been in a boat cabin when OC was used on a drunk, trust me, you don't want to use it in a confined area.

[Rob10ring]

Chemical sprays can be great... but they can also fail miserably. They can also (read "most likely will" when used indoors) contaminate the user as much as the intended target. We didn't have time to address the good & the bad of Chemical Defense during the first season of TBD, but it is something that I intend to address next year. 

Meanwhile, IF you choose to have one of these cans standing by for defensive use, make sure that your immediate follow up plan involves an exit strategy that doesn't take you through the cloud. I also recommend being exposed to the exact product you are using prior to carry/staging it. You should know how it will affect you before a critical incident.

-RJP

How about a foam pepper spray, like the one offered by Cold Steel?

http://www.coldsteel.com/pepper-spray.html

"ADVANTAGES OF INFERNO
Highly Targetable - because it’s a foam and not a spray or fog, it’s easy to hit your target accurately indoors or outdoors with Inferno. It won’t contaminate an entire room. This makes it ideal for use in confined spaces like homes, shops, offices and parking garages."

[Rob Pincus]

Foams can be better in terms of wind issues and the "lingering" effect in the atmosphere... we've also learned the hard way (particularly in correctional facilities) that foam can be wiped off and thrown back at you!
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Meanwhile, here is a "making of" clip from a DVD we did on Chemical Defense. This was the first time the subject was ever sprayed.... notice the complete lack of wailing and incapacitation..... Chemical spray is not fun, and he probably wouldn't volunteer again quite so readily... but if he had wanted to start flailing with the knife and continue the attack, even after a direct spray of the agent into his eyes, he certainly could have in this case. The DVD, when it is released later this year, will be showing the advantages and disadvantages of chemical agents and be combined with segments on electrical devices as well, highlighting the C2 Taser....

(warning FOUL LANGUAGE)


-RJP

[Rob10ring]

Meanwhile, here is a "making of" clip from a DVD we did on Chemical Defense. This was the first time the subject was ever sprayed.... notice the complete lack of wailing and incapacitation..... Chemical spray is not fun, and he probably wouldn't volunteer again quite so readily... but if he had wanted to start flailing with the knife and continue the attack, even after a direct spray of the agent into his eyes, he certainly could have in this case. The DVD, when it is released later this year, will be showing the advantages and disadvantages of chemical agents and be combined with segments on electrical devices as well, highlighting the C2 Taser....

-RJP

Looks like an informative and entertaining DVD. Especially to someone like me that lives in a state that hasn't entirely embraced CCW. This one is gonna be on my wish list with Forever Armed.

While the subject in the video isn't completely incapacitated, It looks like the chemical agent may have given the girl an opportunity to flee. It doesn't look like the attacker was able to open his eyes for a while either.