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Re: Binghamton Police Response, Too Slow?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 12:20:39 AM »
Several LEO's and an armed CITIZEN who had all decided that they were tired as hell of getting shot at.
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Wrong way around, The cops on the scene had revolvers and shotguns, He had them out ranged , so several "Good Ole Boys" got their hunting rifles out of their trucks and suppressed him. When the first Police officer  (alone) got to him he found Whitman had been killed by one of the CIVILIAN rifles.

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Re: Binghamton Police Response, Too Slow?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 12:26:47 PM »
Wrong way around, The cops on the scene had revolvers and shotguns, He had them out ranged , so several "Good Ole Boys" got their hunting rifles out of their trucks and suppressed him. When the first Police officer  (alone) got to him he found Whitman had been killed by one of the CIVILIAN rifles.

Not exactly.  The bubbas with hunting rifles did supress him enough for 2 officers and an armed citizen to get into the tower and swiss cheese him.
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Re: Binghamton Police Response, Too Slow?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 01:03:45 PM »
Can't vouch for total accuracy due to the place it comes from, but it sounds like what I remember from the History channel story I saw once.


After tending to wounded in the stairwell area between the 27th and 28th floors, APD Officers Milton Shoquist, Harold Moe, and George Shepard were making their way up the stairs to join APD Officer Phillip Conner and Texas Department of Public Safety Agent W. A. "Dub" Cowan, both arriving in the tower’s 28th floor observation deck reception room just as APD Officers Houston McCoy and Jerry Day and a civilian, Allen Crum, were following APD Officer Ramiro Martinez out the south door onto the observation deck. Martinez, closely followed by McCoy, proceeded north on the east deck while Day, followed by Crum, proceeded west on the south deck. Several feet before reaching the southwest corner area, Crum accidentally discharged a shot from his borrowed rifle at the same time Martinez jumped onto the northeast corner area, and rapidly fired all six rounds from his .38 police revolver. As Martinez was firing, McCoy jumped just to the right of Martinez and with his 12 gauge shotgun, fired two fatal 00 buck shots into the head, neck, and left side of Whitman, as the photo to the right shows, who was sitting with his back towards the north wall in the northwest corner area approximately fifty feet distance. He was partially shielded by the observation deck tower lights and in a position to defend a confrontation from either the northeast corner or the southwest corner.

Martinez threw his empty revolver onto the deck, grabbed McCoy's shotgun, ran to the prone body of Whitman, and fired a point blank shot into the upper left arm, as the photo to the right shows. Martinez then threw the shotgun on the deck and hurriedly left the scene repeatedly shouting, "I got him." Moe, with a hand held radio that had not functioned inside the building, on hearing Martinez as he ran past, relayed Martinez’s words to the APD radio dispatcher.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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Re: Binghamton Police Response, Too Slow?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 08:32:24 AM »
As more information comes out regards the shooting incident, the anti's are now pushing to raise the price of ammo.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12097405

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Re: Binghamton Police Response, Too Slow?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2009, 08:47:52 AM »
Typical poor reporting.

First it's the "cops" that say he is a 'new Rambo'.  Then the police chief says no problem with 98 rounds in a minute.  Then the 'new Rambo' remark is attributed to a civilian range owner.  So which is it Mr reporter?

Also siting Chris Rock in a serious discussion losses you many points.

$40 for 98 rounds?  What, were is 9mm and .45 actually firing .308?

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