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S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« on: April 06, 2009, 07:41:15 PM »
http://www.ammoland.com/2009/03/31/smith-wesson-mp-pistol-fifty-thousand-rounds/

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Smith & Wesson M&P Pistol Reaches Goal Of Fifty Thousand Rounds

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. – -(AmmoLand.com)- Smith & Wesson Corp., announced that after eight months of endurance testing conducted by Professional Instructor Todd Louis Green at pistol-training.com, the full-size M&P9 pistol successfully recorded 50,000 rounds.

Throughout the testing, the M&P9 was used by more than 50 people and received only limited maintenance during the evaluation process.

    “Without question, this is the most shooter-friendly gun I’ve ever handled,” said Todd Green, Firearms Instructor and Founder of pistol-training.com. “My goal from the beginning was to put the M&P9 through its paces, not only to measure the endurance of the gun but also to test how the pistol performed in terms of accuracy. The M&P9 clearly exceeded my expectations in both areas and coincidentally has also been responsible for new personal records in a variety of different shooting disciplines. The combination of low bore axis, steel skeleton, and polymer frame helps to reduce recoil and muzzle flip to the point that even new shooters find no challenge in firing the gun both accurately and quickly. In particular, I’ve loaned the gun to students who were struggling with their own pistols and saw immediate improvement in their accuracy, their speed, and their confidence.”

During the testing process, which has been documented by Green on the pistol-training.com website, the M&P received limited maintenance during the testing period. In his commentary, Green writes that it was not uncommon for the pistol to go over 5,000 rounds between cleanings. Accuracy tests were conducted at predetermined intervals and involved a 5-shot group at 25 yards from a seated position on a bench. Initial groups at the beginning of the testing measured an average of 1.46 inches and at the conclusion of the endurance testing had only opened up by ¼ of an inch. Over the course of 50,000 rounds, the M&P9 recorded only two stoppages, both attributed to improper maintenance during the stringent testing as well as two minor part breakages.

In all, the M&P9 amassed 104 total range trips with an average of 559.4 rounds fired during each session. The only changes made to the M&P9 while in Green’s possession included the addition of a Performance Center sear, Warren Tactical 2-dot night sights and Crimson Trace® Lasergrips.

    “This was no doubt an abusive test,” commented Green. “In many cases we went beyond what is considered an industry standard in terms of lack of maintenance. Another important fact is that this pistol was my carry firearm and was on my side throughout the endurance testing. I always had complete confidence in this pistol. I would like to thank Smith & Wesson for not only allowing me the opportunity to test the M&P on my own terms but for manufacturing an advanced pistol that any officer can stand behind. The M&P Pistol Series is one of the top performers in the areas of durability, reliability and accuracy and I think that the results from this test certainly back that position.”


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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 10:30:29 PM »
so hers i my question... how does it stack up against a glock? i dont know much about the m&p, was looking at one a few weeks ago, i like the laser grips for it... but ya anywho anyone have first hand knowledge.. what about parts.. i LOVE the fact that glocks have very few parts... less to break in my opinion
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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 05:15:32 PM »
so hers i my question... how does it stack up against a glock? i dont know much about the m&p, was looking at one a few weeks ago, i like the laser grips for it... but ya anywho anyone have first hand knowledge.. what about parts.. i LOVE the fact that glocks have very few parts... less to break in my opinion

Very few parts:
Slide, barrel, guide rod/return spring assembly and plastic frame. The rest will require an extra effort to separate, although the firing pin can be taken out of the slide without too much effort.
Boring as hell, not a target gun, trigger pull is heavy out of the box. Trigger job to reduce the trigger pull runs $100 on average or could be done by any mechanically inclined person.
Very reliable with any kind of ammo.

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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 06:28:34 PM »
ericire! I AM STUNNED this article is from one of the "Glockinators" on this DRTV forum. :o

I am however, NOT surprised by the result of the test. ;)

As a M+P owner, albeit a .40, I am very pleased S&W got this model right. I have had not 1 issue at any time with any ammo.

I previously posted a "minor" test, compared to this one, but had the same result.

The review section here at DRTV  has my review, and it is a great pistol.


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Glad to see an "official" result.

Thanks ericire. You put a smile on my face today.
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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 06:44:59 PM »
lets see,

Things the smith does that the glocks do not.

better gripe angle,
metal sights
adusable back straps.
You don't have to pull the trigger to take the gun apart.
you can get some models with a safety
you can get all models with or with out a mag disconnect.

Things the glock does that the smith does not






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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 02:37:54 PM »
ericire! I AM STUNNED this article is from one of the "Glockinators" on this DRTV forum. :o

M&Ps SUCK........ GLOCKS RULE...... EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRAP....... (HI-POINT SUCKS TOO).... KOOL-AID IS GOOD..... DRINK THE KOOL-AID....... THEN HAVE SOME MORE KOOL-AID........ IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR?
































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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 02:44:44 PM »
M&Ps SUCK........ GLOCKS RULE...... EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRAP....... (HI-POINT SUCKS TOO).... KOOL-AID IS GOOD..... DRINK THE KOOL-AID....... THEN HAVE SOME MORE KOOL-AID........ IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR?
































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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2009, 02:51:07 PM »
Ericire12...in all seriousness,

If you could not buy a Glock, WOULD you buy and trust your life to an M&P 9C?

I cannot buy a Glock (at least not new) but I can buy every M&P with the heavy trigger pull....not the 6.5# job....


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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2009, 03:33:23 PM »
well.. that's good but it is still about 130,000 rds short of some of the glocks that have made 150,000...160,000, and yes 170,000rds.. with some of the Glock 9mm's..   So, the M&P's have got a ways to go. But, having said that .. I have repeatedly said that the M&P's are my number 2 choice and they are up there.. almost as good as Glock. 50,000 is good no doubt.  ;)

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Re: S&W M&P reaches 50,000 rds
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2009, 03:39:09 PM »
I would buy a Smith and Wesson M&P in a heartbeat if I could not get a Glock. I have two Glocks (My 3rd and 4th owned) and recently purchased a Smith and Wesson M&P9c. I love the trigger pull and extra weight of the M&P along with it's accuracy right there with my Glocks. I originally bought this for my wife and since I bought her the Ruger LCP, I have adopted the M&P. Only regret is the M&P is not .40 or .45. I will buy another M&P in a higher caliber.

 

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