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Texas_Bryan

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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 07:26:22 PM »
No Kel-Tec rifles, and NO BULLPOPS!!!!
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 07:56:17 PM »
I agree with you TWYacht. Love my DPMS and would really love to have one in .308.  8)
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 08:01:31 PM »
Quote from: twyacht on April 07, 2009, 07:21:21 PM
For less, I would rather get a DPMS in .308. Recent gun show had several for $1500-2000. NIB



Seems high for the Kel-Tec, but their ALL high nowadays.





Who dat with the big pig??
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2009, 08:26:11 PM »
Twelve year old Kenneth Bender, of the Camp Pendleton Young Marines, took this hog at Triangle Ranch using a custom DPMS 308 with a surefire suppressor and 500 lumen Leopard Light.

Found out they are backordered to.

http://www.dpmsrifle.com/category/309-DPMS_Panther.aspx

For the other sites, its hit or miss, but most are gone,... :-\

Guns show here had them, but they were steep, (Not as steep as the bull pup, but steep)
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2009, 08:32:40 PM »
We NEED more young hunters and shooters!  (especially a guy / gal that does BOTH!)
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Re: Are you kidding me?
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2009, 11:46:13 PM »
I know I am going to catch nine kinds of hell over this, but I am going to say it anyways. I absolutely agree that we need more young hunters and shooters, but we also need to differentiate between the two. Hear me out. Guns with cans are fun. Guns with lights are fun. Guns with cans and lights have no place in hunting field. Hunting needs to be about hunting---woodsmanship, tracking, stalking, reading sign, patience, etc. It shouldn't be about instant gratification. Yes, I know that hogs are pests. However, what is demanded of a hunter if he/she hunts at night, with a light and silencer for feral hogs? Very little. I don't think one can genuinely appreciate the difficulty nor reward of the hunt. Now, I'm a crazy longbow totin' traditionalist, but I don't think everyone needs to be that way. However, I do believe that people should learn to appreciate the HUNT and not just the KILL. Rant over, prepare the tar and feathers...

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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2009, 11:48:54 AM »
Quote from: sanjuancb on April 07, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
I know I am going to catch nine kinds of hell over this, but I am going to say it anyways. I absolutely agree that we need more young hunters and shooters, but we also need to differentiate between the two. Hear me out. Guns with cans are fun. Guns with lights are fun. Guns with cans and lights have no place in hunting field. Hunting needs to be about hunting---woodsmanship, tracking, stalking, reading sign, patience, etc. It shouldn't be about instant gratification. Yes, I know that hogs are pests. However, what is demanded of a hunter if he/she hunts at night, with a light and silencer for feral hogs? Very little. I don't think one can genuinely appreciate the difficulty nor reward of the hunt. Now, I'm a crazy longbow totin' traditionalist, but I don't think everyone needs to be that way. However, I do believe that people should learn to appreciate the HUNT and not just the KILL. Rant over, prepare the tar and feathers...



I'm not really going to spread this over 27 feet, but I disagree with you about utilizing technology in hunting.
By your reasoning things like sights on bows, or fixed ammo are not needed for "fair" hunting.
Now go scrape off the tar and clean up those feathers. ;D
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2009, 12:04:55 PM »
Don't make hunting about the tech and gizmo, I'm totally satisfied if I go out and don't kill a thing.  Just being out and with the family means so much to me.  Tech is fine I hunt compound so of course its all about tech, but all that comes way after the hunt and the getting away from it all.
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2009, 12:21:30 PM »
To each his own. If we did not have people pursuing traditional types of hunting there would be no knowledge of muzzle loaders or Long bows, for that matter guns would have killed off bow hunting completely. By the same token, suppressors do not effect the performance of the hunter or his fire arm, they are simply safety equipment like ear plugs that prevent you from annoying people around your hunting area, second, lights have been used in night hunting since the days of the flaming torch, through the era of flashlights, mounting the formerly hand held light onto the fire arm is simply freeing up one hand, a convenience like fixed ammo.

This is not about "what is proper", it is about what is proper FOR YOU.
GameDevBryan is right
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Re: Are you kidding me?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 12:33:47 PM »
Hunting with suppressors and lights at night for hogs would be like shooting fish in a barrel, would it not? What degree of sportsmanship do you have to possess in order to shoot a pig while it is eating corn in the middle of the night when it can neither see you nor hear the crack of a rifle? I'm not saying everyone should use bows or muzzleloaders, but that they should at least make it some sort of a challenge. Good gracious! Are we so consumed with killing that we now seek any means necessary for that end? 
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