primers

[Hazcat]

I have a freind that moved to another community where he works as an electrician.  One of their clients is a well known ammo manufacturer.  My friend says that he could just as well call the plant his homebase, because for the last year and a half that is almost the only place he has worked.  It is a constant flow of new machinery for both upgrading of old and increasing production.

His report is that the trucks are rolling constantly with raw materials coming in and finished product leaving.  The only thing he knows is what he gets told - "Don't look for another job, because we need you here for a loooooooong time!"

I believe that there is a genuine demand issue that no one was ready for.  Some is for legitamate use, and some is hording by users.  I also believe that the "big boys" may not be ramping up (expanding) as much as they could due to investor ownership that operates differently and for fear of what is coming out of DC in months to come.

M58,

Ask him if they need trucking or parcel shipping help. 

[tombogan03884]

 Another thing is they hesitate to invest money in ramping up for an increase in demand that may fade in 6 months and leave them with far more capacity than demand. People hired for the bubble would have to be laid off, excess machinery and space would be non productive expense as it needs to be paid for, insured and maintained whether it is producing or not.

[ccd]

Hmptt...factories running at full capacity? were they doing that 6 months ago? I don't think so. BUT there was primers you could buy anywhere.
Ammo on shelfs.. 6 months ago? YES there was ammo was on the shelf.

I will make this really simple to understand.

April-->March-->-->February-->January-->December-->November  What happened in November?

BTW there HAVE been ammunition and primer shortages over the last 8 years for other reasons, which you would have noticed if you shot 223 and 308 in large quantities like some of us do. It is just that now everything is in limited supply. Normal pistol ammo actually started getting harder to find last summer it just didn't affect most shooters so they did not notice or the mass hording would have started much sooner.

[deamonpi]

April-->March-->-->February-->January-->December-->November  What happened in November?

BHO was elected. 

[TAB]

Funny, I walked into the local gun store and bought 1000 shot gun primers this morning. Going to load up some 16 ga for the summer.

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Seems to be that way every where, shotgun stuff yes, Rifle and pistol No.
I have not heard comments either way about caps for black powder.

[TAB]

Same shop I bought 100 pistol primers to reload some rounds for my 41 mag, 3 weeks ago.   Just like today,it was hand them cash, walk out twith them.  Prices have gone up, but I'm not having any prob finding any ammo or primers.  Brass in these parts is hard to find as we have alot of brass collectors here.( I mean alot)  Other then 40, but I'm sure that is do to the fact that just about every one shoots 40.  When your limited to 10 rounds, most people want something more then 9mm.   Plus most of the local LEA use public ranges for qualifying.  1st sat of every month one range closes in the morning.  at 50 rounds for each LEO, it adds up fast.

[ccd]

Shotgun primers are pretty much available everywhere. My LGS has handgun primers in stock but limits everyone to 500 max. Rifle primers have been very difficult to locate so if your loads are only worked up with one type of primer your SOL. Of course 223 Rem is still readily available as long as you can afford to shoot the Corbon stuff loaded with the triple shocks.

I have personally been waiting for Remington to release their 62gr UCL 223 load since last year's SHOT Show but it has evidently turned into vaporware thanks to the current production/demand realities. Thankfully Federal is bringing out their 223 62 gr DHS load (which is one of my stockpile loads) in the Fusion line, which hopefully won't suffer the same vaporware fate.

[jj]

WOW my "MIDWAY" catalog for May 2009 just came in the mail...
On page # 11 "Primers" Yup, there listed.... Checked on the internet and guess what?
NO primers for SALE / NO Backorders..........
Michael Needs to find out what the problem is with his sponsors....

[Marshal Halloway]

All online businesses dealing in ammo have primers listed whether they are in stock or not. I have talked to ammo manufacturers who are having problems now simply because primers are not available. They cannot make ammo.

CCI, Federal and Winchester have for a long time rolled out primers with full capacity. After November '08, the private market exploded. In addition to high demand from ammo manufacturers supplying the military, private citizens suddenly started to triple (even more than that) their orders/purchases. The manufacturers were not prepared for that, they were already on max in terms of production. Simple math tells me that it will take months before we can normalize the supply line. And the manufacturers are afraid of investing in more tooling and machinery to fill the demand. Reason is that when/if we are back to normal, they will end up with empty production cells and unused machinery at the factories.

Have in mind that some of us (me included) have purchased primers to fill need the demand for the next 3-4 years. Normally I buy primers every third month or so. It is crazy and the industry was not prepared for the Obama effect on guns and ammo.