Pirates vow to retaliate

[MikeBjerum]

WARNING:  I'm Brainstorming, and this is intended to bring discussion!  Translation:  Don't call me nasty names unless you have a better idea.

Businesses world wide have security of some level, and they pay for it.  Some have "in house" security, and some contract for it.  Our marine based military is the Coast Guard and the Navy.  How about if the Coast Guard would have trained security squads that would be based on every U.S. Flagged navigating the open seas or any vessel that needs security (meaning in our waters).

The ship owners would pay for this service.  However, the use of U.S. Military could get around countries that would try and deny arms in their ports.  This is our military on U.S. Flagged ships providing professional security.

Someone like deepwater could give us some idea of how many it would take.  But I would think that it shouldn't take more than six per vessel, and maybe as low as four.

[TAB]

the prob with that is most countrys in the world do not allow weapons to come into thier ports( we are one of those).
If you were to use the Coasties or the navy.  your now letting armed forign miltary personal into your ports on non miltary vessels.  No country is going to let that happen.

[MikeBjerum]

the prob with that is most countrys in the world do not allow weapons to come into thier ports( we are one of those).
If you were to use the Coasties or the navy.  your now letting armed forign miltary personal into your ports on non miltary vessels.  No country is going to let that happen.

That's a worry for our State Department ... Lemon Kisser Clinton and her clan ... "Guarantee the safety of our vessels and we won't bring military on board."

[tt11758]

That's a worry for our State Department ... Lemon Kisser Clinton and her clan ... "Guarantee the safety of our vessels and we won't bring military on board."

Exactly!!

btw, I thought you might have changed your sstatement at the bottom to something like "may my dog not puke up a recently-devoured rabbit all over the man she thinks I am."         

[TAB]

That's a worry for our State Department ... Lemon Kisser Clinton and her clan ... "Guarantee the safety of our vessels and we won't bring military on board."

so are you willing to volunteer for the duty?  knowing that at the very least you are gojng to spend time in prison, maybe decades to life or even exucted?

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[tombogan03884]

so are you willing to volunteer for the duty?  knowing that at the very least you are gojng to spend time in prison, maybe decades to life or even exucted?

TAB is talking out his avatar again. Deepwaters ship is armed and carries military personnel. Your contention is BS.
 We don't need to "protect every ship" as some one else mentioned, each ship is only in the worlds danger areas for a relitivly short time. We KNOW where the pirates are, so we use a much smaller number of ships to keep them in port, the concept is called blockade and worked quite well against the German fleet in 2 World wars. If they leave harbor they die. Follow up with a tactic that goes back to the earliest days of naval warfare, the "cutting out expedition" in which landing parties seize or destroy anchored ships and supporting shore installations.
Only stupid people fail to understand that ALL modern problems have a successful solution in history.

[PegLeg45]

TAB is talking out his avatar again. Deepwaters ship is armed and carries military personnel. Your contention is BS.
 We don't need to "protect every ship" as some one else mentioned, each ship is only in the worlds danger areas for a relitivly short time. We KNOW where the pirates are, so we use a much smaller number of ships to keep them in port, the concept is called blockade and worked quite well against the German fleet in 2 World wars. If they leave harbor they die. Follow up with a tactic that goes back to the earliest days of naval warfare, the "cutting out expedition" in which landing parties seize or destroy anchored ships and supporting shore installations.
Only stupid people fail to understand that ALL modern problems have a successful solution in history.

And if they try to run the blockade, just put a nice sized hole in the water, right where they "used to be".

[Timothy]

The Naval firepower supplied by the 5th Fleet based in the Indian ocean is unmatched.  We could easily handle everything that is happening in Iraq with only a small contingent of vessels diverted to the Somali operating area.  It's a big coastline but as Tom says, block their ports and if you move, you lose!

We just need the resolve to do what is needed to protect OUR vessels, the rest of the world can do the same...

[fightingquaker13]

TAB is talking out his avatar again. Deepwaters ship is armed and carries military personnel. Your contention is BS.
 We don't need to "protect every ship" as some one else mentioned, each ship is only in the worlds danger areas for a relitivly short time. We KNOW where the pirates are, so we use a much smaller number of ships to keep them in port, the concept is called blockade and worked quite well against the German fleet in 2 World wars. If they leave harbor they die. Follow up with a tactic that goes back to the earliest days of naval warfare, the "cutting out expedition" in which landing parties seize or destroy anchored ships and supporting shore installations.
Only stupid people fail to understand that ALL modern problems have a successful solution in history.

Spot on Tom. I've been arguing this point on this board and elsewhere for awhile. For a fraction of the cost of a destroyer and guided missle frigate, we could put a squad  of jar heads on every American flagged vessel and others who were willing to pay, and then extract them by helicopter after they left the danger zone. It seems a lot cheaper,more effective and frankly scarier (to the piates) than what we're doing now. It all boils down to the famous saying "I'd rather have a gun in my hand than a cop on the phone". A classic for a reason.
FQ13

[MikeBjerum]

It's obviously Midol time again, so we'll just take it with a grain of salt ...

The reason many countries don't want arms in their ports is because the men with arms rule the roost!  My ship gets attacked, I protect it, kiss my ass!!!  You bet I'd do the duty!

Oh ... The reason our Founding Fathers wanted us armed and the reason the elite libs today don't want us armed is the exact same reason.  It is called ACCOUNTABILITY!!!