MT Made Weapons Bill passed and signed by Governor on April 15th

[tombogan03884]

No reason to write the law off already.  The law was just passed and signed, and the steps of clearing the way for it in the Federal Courts has just begun.  Take it through the system in a strong ans systematic manor, and it has a chance ... How many people wrote the Heller case off as "been there done that gonna lose?" 

Go for it in the best interest of all citizens!

TAB for one 
Should I go back and cut and paste the posts 

[tombogan03884]

its still never been resolved, about every 6 months you will see where the DEA and or FBI  arrests a bunch of people ( normally in LA or the bay area) on drug trafficing.  No one has ever won thier case in federal court.  Many have tried, all have failed.  Its also funny that just about every city has passed laws saying " not in our city"  Even sacramento, which is very liberal( damn bay area people moving in) pass such a law.   Many countys have done the same.  its only, ( and here is a shocker) the bay area and LA area that let them sell inside city limits.

Not even the whole Bay area when I was there, Just SF, but the fact remains that it's 10 years later and it is still alive and spreading.

[PegLeg45]

I'm sending this on to all my state legislators. Maybe if more states get on this bandwagon and pass similar legislation, it might pick up more steam.
Tell the feds where they can stick it.

[TAB]

Not even the whole Bay area when I was there, Just SF, but the fact remains that it's 10 years later and it is still alive and spreading.

the other side  of that is 10 years later and the federal goverment is still going after people.  Anyone with half a brain would realize that the CA system is just a way for stoners to get high with out being pestered by the cops.

[m25operator]

"the other side  of that is 10 years later and the federal goverment is still going after people.  Anyone with half a brain would realize that the CA system is just a way for stoners to get high with out being pestered by the cops."

Not that I am for it, but if your state decides this is the law, then it should be, and the feds be damned. Now by state decides, I mean the voting members, not the legislature. Your state is overfull of fruits and nuts and who knows how the vote would go? Especially when non citizens get to vote and often, with no identification necessary.

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[TAB]

So if lets just say GA, wants to pass a law that says blacks can't vote.  the people voted on it... it should be law right?


The voters of CA have passed many things that have been struck down in federal court.  Gay marrage for  example.  We pass a law that said no, the federal court said yes.  So we had to pass a amendment to the CA cons.

We pass a prop saying no schooling for illegal aliens, guess what, the 9th disrtict said too bad.

[tombogan03884]

So if lets just say GA, wants to pass a law that says blacks can't vote.  the people voted on it... it should be law right?


The voters of CA have passed many things that have been struck down in federal court.  Gay marrage for  example.  We pass a law that said no, the federal court said yes.  So we had to pass a amendment to the CA cons.

We pass a prop saying no schooling for illegal aliens, guess what, the 9th disrtict said too bad.

9th district is the most overturned COURT in America. Weinstien in NY is the most overturned judge. He was the judge in the NY anti gun company lawsuits, but he originally made his name with Mafia trials.

[fightingquaker13]

So if lets just say GA, wants to pass a law that says blacks can't vote.  the people voted on it... it should be law right?

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Diferent issue. The 15th ammendment guarantees that. The court ruled in the machine guns case in '38, I believe, and the ban isn't really isn't a ban, just a requirement for tax stamps. This was ok'ed under the intertate commerse clause as the abilty to tax interstate commerse, at whatever rate is an enumerated power. The only prohibition would be on 2a grounds and that has not been an issue until Heller. I DID learn that in Tx. one private citizen can ship a gun to another in state withought going through an FFL,if they don't use the US mail. I wouldn't reccomend it, but there you go, it gets around the '68 gun control act. Maybe the MT law does as well. As far as the '86 ban who knows how that will apply I've neverread it don't know the exact wording. I agree with OP that I wouldn't start making machine guns in my garage, but it will make for an interesting legal case.
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[PegLeg45]

So if lets just say GA, wants to pass a law that says blacks can't vote.  the people voted on it... it should be law right?


The voters of CA have passed many things that have been struck down in federal court.  Gay marrage for  example.  We pass a law that said no, the federal court said yes.  So we had to pass a amendment to the CA cons.

We pass a prop saying no schooling for illegal aliens, guess what, the 9th disrtict said too bad.

No, because voting is guaranteed by the Constitution....just like the 2nd Amendment is supposed to be (although there are states that allow that right to be directly infringed upon).

All Montana is saying is that the 2nd Amendment directly guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and beyond that, it reserves the right to decide how it is administered within the boundaries of their state.

Other things not noted in the Constitution, like gay marriage and illegals in schools are still at the discretion of overzealous federal level judges with their own agendas to pawn over.

[ericire12]

All Montana is saying is that the 2nd Amendment directly guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and beyond that, it reserves the right to decide how it is administered within the boundaries of their state.

It is really about them unequivocally agreeing with that darn "Shall not be infringed" clause.