Rassmussen -- 18% of Texans want to sucede

[Pathfinder]

I don't care how bad ass texas thinks they are, no way they could handle the US goverment.

All depends on how much of a disturbance the rest of the states were at the same time the US gummint was trying to bother Texas.

[tombogan03884]

All depends on how much of a disturbance the rest of the states were at the same time the US gummint was trying to bother Texas.

I think we could provide sufficient distraction 

[twyacht]

Key West.  Conch Republic  April 23, 1982   

Yes but they were hippies that idolized Jimmy Buffet. After the "buzz" and munchies wore off, they caved. 

[fightingquaker13]

Yes but they were hippies that idolized Jimmy Buffet. After the "buzz" and munchies wore off, they caved. 

I don't know where you're from originally, but if you believe that, don't say it 90 miles south of 70 miles west of Miami. There are still a lot of us old school Florida crackers out there. Dont' forget key west's economy usded to consist of smuggling, fishig and setting up false channel lights to lure ships aground so they could be salvaged. Just because they wear Buffet shirts and smoke a little weed, doesn't make em' the kind of folks you want to mess with. 
OLD SCHOOL, FL. REDNECK
FQ13

[Timothy]

Just because they wear Buffet shirts and smoke a little weed, doesn't make em' the kind of folks you want to mess with.
FQ13

I was stationed in Key Waste for a year back in the 70's.  Trust me, the city then, was sailors and homosexuals with some hairy local women in the mix.  With the exception of the Navy and Marine Corp, the balance of the population then were pacifists and no threat to anyone.  Since then, the Navy has moved out leaving, well, you get the picture.....Never was a Buffett fan anyway!   
timothy...glad he never bent down to pick up the soap...

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[twyacht]

I don't know where you're from originally, but if you believe that, don't say it 90 miles south of 70 miles west of Miami. There are still a lot of us old school Florida crackers out there. Dont' forget key west's economy usded to consist of smuggling, fishig and setting up false channel lights to lure ships aground so they could be salvaged. Just because they wear Buffet shirts and smoke a little weed, doesn't make em' the kind of folks you want to mess with. 
OLD SCHOOL, FL. REDNECK
FQ13

Born in Miami when the predominant language WAS English. Worked at the No Name Pub on Big Pine Key, "The Original Devils Triangle" especially when Ernie's Island Pub was just next door on Little Pine Key,.... Watched Jimmy Buffet get his ass kicked for hitting on a guy's wife.

Was a commercial fisherman (1st mate) from the Keys to the Tortugas, and got the hell out there when Fidel (our new buddy), released all the mental patients, and prisoners to America to "help" our immigration policy under good ol Jimmy Carter.

Moved to West Broward County where my family raised horses (Arabian and Lipizzaner ) at Bonaventure, fished and did mucho target shooting and some boar hunting.

The "Florida Jewfish" was a burlap bale of marijuana that smelled like diesel fuel, and was an extra in 3 Miami Vice episodes, (when skipping school, and showing up at Vizcaya for a casting call was more fun).

Twyacht, who is also a fellow florida redneck knows where the bodies are buried west of the Miccosukee Reservation. just off Alligator Alley.

[fightingquaker13]

Born in Miami when the predominant language WAS English. Worked at the No Name Pub on Big Pine Key, "The Original Devils Triangle" especially when Ernie's Island Pub was just next door on Little Pine Key,.... Watched Jimmy Buffet get his ass kicked for hitting on a guy's wife.

Was a commercial fisherman (1st mate) from the Keys to the Tortugas, and got the hell out there when Fidel (our new buddy), released all the mental patients, and prisoners to America to "help" our immigration policy under good ol Jimmy Carter.

Moved to West Broward County where my family raised horses (Arabian and Lipizzaner ) at Bonaventure, fished and did mucho target shooting and some boar hunting.

The "Florida Jewfish" was a burlap bale of marijuana that smelled like diesel fuel, and was an extra in 3 Miami Vice episodes, (when skipping school, and showing up at Vizcaya for a casting call was more fun).

Twyacht, who is also a fellow florida redneck knows where the bodies are buried west of the Miccosukee Reservation. just off Alligator Alley.

Very cool my man, and if you worked at the no name, you know where of I speak about not messing with those old guys who have their ears nd noses all chewed up by the sun.
FQ13

[twyacht]

I also remember when the "old guys" didn't put up with the gay element that has taken a foothold, along with the Rainbow Coalition, down there on Roosevelt Street.

Politically Correct Disclaimer:

Not That there is anything wrong with that,.........

To the OP:

The Texas tourism commercials used to advertise: It's Own Little Country......

Doesn't seem that far fetched anymore,....

[THE CORONER]

What's sad is if we were to secede, and weren't forced to pay any of the national debt ,we could actually afford universal health care and free college for everyone. If this was mentioned all the Yankees and Californians that relocated here would suddenly change their minds and it would be 65% in favor of secession.

First of all, why are we even talking about secession?  Together we stand, divided we fall.  I find these remarks treason.  

Hey, lets cut out on the rest of America, and start our own Socialistic society, where everyone has affordable health care, and free college (in Texas only of course).  And for your folks out there who want to cut out with us, we're not going to pay taxes anymore.  Apparently, someone found a genie lamp some where on a beach around Brownsville?  And it's magic.  No more of this "One for all, All for one" ideology.  We're gonna take control of our own destiny down here.  We don't have a clue who's gonna run the show?  But we're confident that we know better than all the political minds in Washington D.C.  Hey, just because the first secession of the States didn't work; doesn't mean it won't work for us now.  Oh!  By the way...We have plenty in Texas.  They don't say "everything's bigger in Texas" for nothing.  That includes our oil industry.  We can drill, refine, and ship our oil to the rest of the United States without dealing with the middleman anymore.  The U.S. buys everything else from foreign countries.  Why not us?  We're closer even.  I'm sure that after awhile, the rest of the States will forget about us cutting out on them, and seceding, and they will eventually enter into trade agreements with us.  Won't they?

NOW....Before all you southern gents pounce on me for this; understand that I have the utmost respect for you.  I am ex-military, and some of my best friends are from the south.  And while the name "yankee" doesn't really offend me, it's diration does.  Myself and well as many other yankees, don't feel any hostilities against people from the south.  But we do feel resentment on one level or another from some of you and you're feelings about us.  The war of the states was, and will forever be the darkest days of our nation.  But it ended over 140 years ago.  That's alot of generations to carry the burdens of our brethern on both sides.  Alot of southern folks like to say that "it's their southern heritage".  That's fine to celebrate or mourn the result of that war.  It's just the animosity associated with it, that makes the debate go on, and on, and on.  Our country is a mess!  From East to West, North to South.  We are one nation now.  Men from all walks of life, in all areas of our country, have fought and died  since the war of secession, to ensure our freedoms.  And now, we have a black president.  One who has issues with issues we're passionate about.  But, you know as well as I do, that former administrations started us on a steady decline.  Republican and Democrat respectfully.  I love this country.  I can't imagine living anywhere else on the planet.  Yes, we have problems.  Plenty of them.  I don't envy Obama for the task he has undertaken.  But I do respect his bravery when everyone seeks to betray him.  He is our President.  He was elected by popular vote.  Does he have my best interest in mind when he talks about guns?  Absolutely not!  But I'm confident, that the rest of Congress does.  I think we as gun owners, enthusiast, etc...have and will continue strong opposition against unconstitutional gun laws/bans.  This is what makes our government work.  Getting caught up in all the media hype and propaganda is a complete waste of time.  Even networks report the news to their political spin.  Talking about secession to me is the same thing.  A waste of time.  I need affordable health care where I live, not just in Texas.  We're in this together people!  We are the citizens of the United States of America.  Not the USA, and the Republic of Texas.  I know I need to step back now and again, just to get a new perspective on things, just to stay sane.  I think all of us need to do that from time to time. 

It's easy to be angry, and want to cut out and end relationships.  But this isn't leaving one girlfriend for another?  This is one of our most beloved States seceding from the rest of us.  I wonder if the percentage of Texans wanting to secede are Mexican-Americans?  They've been saying Texas is theirs since before the Alamo.  It certainly gives states bordering Texas something to think about doesn't it? 

It's harder to seek the truth and show it to others in a way that won't offend them.  Go figure?  I don't see how Texas seceding from the rest of the states help the rest of the states?  Maybe it's not suppose to?  Maybe it's just supposedly to help them.  Sounds kinda selfish to me?  In any event, I'll pray for all of us, including Texas tonight.  If there's even 65% of you that want to join me, that would be great too! 

[m25operator]

We don't get our water from the feds, who the f**k thought that up, we don't get our energy, from anyone else, Hell we provide
it at a mandated  F**king discount to the rest of the union, Food, Beef, and lot's of it, the Valley as it is known, provides vegetables, on a large scale, not to mention, Like during WW2, Victory gardens, We can sustain ourselves, Maybe not apples, and cherries, but jalapeno's, squash, pears, cantaloupe, watermellon, okra, , Tomato's best in the world. And of course Beans, Pinto of course, we grow the snap  pea's, black eyed pea's, sweet peas, Corn, of course we will make tortilla's to make tostada's and use the beans to make Chalaupa's, wheat for flour, to make tortillas de aharina, lots of wild pigs,  and we use the pig heads to make tamale's, We may not grow jicama, or avacado's, rhubarb and other cold weather plants, but can grow collard greens, mustard greens, and turnip. We will be fine, the above mentioned vege's and fruits, can be grown in my backyard, I'm a secession kind of guy, but understand it will be hard at 1st. I am tired of the status quo. It is time for states to cry bullshit.!! Not just mine, but yours as well, Tab I know your outnumbered, but many people are getting the wake up, this may be your states time to rise, but I doubt it .  I hate relinquishement, and won't tolerate it.

Texas's boys can survive.

To Coroner, it is not treason, We as a state are not giving aid and comfort to the enemy, " We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us, ( pogo ) We are trying to give aid and comfort to ourselves in a futuristic scenario, We have not done it, but are thinking about it. Why does Texas have an option? And NH, and a few other states? Because we stated it in the original provisions of statehood, and under the 10th amendment, the Feds are nullifying the constitution, after that all bet's are off. Capiche?