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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 11:38:53 AM »



There's your answer ;)
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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »
Saving up right now for a Springfield loaded 1911.  8)

I think you will be happy....I love mine.   ;)
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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 05:35:44 PM »
I have also been shopping around for a Springfield "Loaded" 1911, but now I'm not so sure.  I was checking out the Clark Custom Guns site in the 1911  FAQ section when I saw this..."As long as the bore is good, most factory barrels* can be made to shoot as well as match barrels..." then at the bottom of the page,"*Springfield Armory factory barrels must be tested in our barrel fixture before being utilized in an accuracy job."  What's up with that?  Does SA have some quality control problems that I'm unaware of? 

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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 06:19:56 PM »
Para Ordnance is the only maker I know of that gives you a choice of SA or DA 1911 and single-stack or double-stack. Dry fire an LDA and see if you want a SA after that. You can even carry it UNcocked and locked so it's safer than other 1911s. They make models to fit any need from sub-compact to longslide versions. The limited models have a lot of bells and whistles on them right out of the box.
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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 06:26:54 PM »
Excellent point Frank.  A full service 1911 company, Para Ordnance...

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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 06:29:09 PM »
Taurus has a lot of bang for the buck too, but not much to choose from.
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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 07:01:18 PM »
I like my Kimber Warrior. It is my primary upstairs gun. Some people turn up their nose at Kimbers for reasons I don't fully understand but I have not had any trouble with it. It can digest everything from hardball to silvertips to semi-wadcutters. After I save up for a hunt with my daugther I am looking at getting a Kimber SIS Pro model.

Taurus and Springfield Armory are good as well. I got to shoot a Wilson quite a bit as well and I can tell you that they are worth it. Shop around a bit, it is a good time to like 1911's.

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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 09:59:29 PM »
I have also been shopping around for a Springfield "Loaded" 1911, but now I'm not so sure.  I was checking out the Clark Custom Guns site in the 1911  FAQ section when I saw this..."As long as the bore is good, most factory barrels* can be made to shoot as well as match barrels..." then at the bottom of the page,"*Springfield Armory factory barrels must be tested in our barrel fixture before being utilized in an accuracy job."  What's up with that?  Does SA have some quality control problems that I'm unaware of? 

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I don't know of any QC issues.
Part of it may be that some factory barrels have a thinner wall thickness than others. If you do an accuracy job, it sometimes means making the barrel lock up tighter than factory. This puts some extra stress in some areas of the barrel and could, under extreme circumstances, lead to problems I think. A super tight barrel bushing combined with ultra tight lock-up at the link and lugs could possibly bow a thin barrel if it is the least bit out of alignment.
Super tight tolerances can (but not always) put extra stress in some areas that are not there on a factory gun.

M25operator may be better able to give a more precise answer to this.



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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 10:36:05 PM »
you can carry a 1911 cocked and unlokced, safely.

You would still have to depress the grib safety and pull the trigger.  I find it ironic that almost 100 year old gun is still one of the safest on the market.  The last 25-30 years many makers have made thier guns less safe.( cough glock, cough)
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Which 1911 to buy?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2009, 10:16:38 AM »
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you can carry a 1911 cocked and unlokced, safely.

You could carry unstable crystalized nitroglycerin "safely" too ... if you do NOTHING ELSE and move slowly.

I wholeheartedly, vehemently and strongly disagree with your statement TAB. I certainly wouldn't let any student in a class do it... not that any has ever been reckless enough to show to a class wanting to!

FWIW: I just got a call 10 minutes ago from the publisher of SWAT Magazine that one of our writers is dead this week from carrying a gun "mexican style"... he had an freak accident and he is DEAD.  (DEAD) He apparently commented to his wife the day before that he "should get a holster".

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