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Lost Souls.....
« on: April 23, 2009, 02:19:31 PM »
As some of you know I work part time for the local coroners office. Recently we have had several deaths that the deceased was not found for several days, sometimes weeks. All of these people have had family in the area. Which leads to my question. How is it that someone can be gone for that amount of time and nobody noticed? Most of the time its a newspaper or mail delivery person that notices a buildup of mail in the box before any one is called. I live in a relativly small town where everybody knows everybody else. These are not people on the fringe, they are regular folks. How can ones family be so self involved that they don't have contact with each other? I just don't get it. Thought anyone?
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 02:24:06 PM »
A couple of days I can see, but WEEKS........................
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 04:25:40 PM »
It's sad situation when life can keep you from checking on loved one's. :o
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 04:52:35 PM »
Without going into a loooooooooooooooong narative I will touch on what I learned in college a few years ago (been fifteen years already).  It is all about the value we put on life and relationships.  For those that haven't noticed, our Country is not only moving away from relationships, but we are even rewarding lack of relationship.  What would people a hundred years ago thought if they heard that a day would come when you could do almost all of your business without not only not seeing a person but not even talking to another person?

The less value we put on life and relationship the better the chance of no one missing us for days.
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 06:05:01 PM »
As some of you know I work part time for the local coroners office. Recently we have had several deaths that the deceased was not found for several days, sometimes weeks. All of these people have had family in the area. Which leads to my question. How is it that someone can be gone for that amount of time and nobody noticed? Most of the time its a newspaper or mail delivery person that notices a buildup of mail in the box before any one is called. I live in a relativly small town where everybody knows everybody else. These are not people on the fringe, they are regular folks. How can ones family be so self involved that they don't have contact with each other? I just don't get it. Thought anyone?

I've pondered that many times myself.

Makes me think of when my father was in the hospital down in Tallahassee, Florida for open heart surgery back in 1998. They had a separate ICU for heart patients with two to the room. The old guy in the room with him had open heart surgery as well and was due to go home a few days before my dad. He couldn't get anyone in his family to come get him. They had dropped him off the day before his surgery and had no contact after that. The nurse said they had not even come the day of the surgery, or even called to check on him. And to top it off, they had HIS car. He had to take a cab home. People just don't seem to care about family anymore (present DRTV company excluded, of course).
That's what is ailing this country now.





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Re: Lost Souls.....
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 06:23:58 PM »
Sad thing, I spend more time on this forum talking to strangers and strange avatars about guns than I do with family members outside the immediate family, i.e. wife, sons and daughter.

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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 07:46:06 PM »
To the OP, this one is about the saddest recent story I have read.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090401/NEWS/904019966?Title=Woman-Dead-For-18-Months-Before-Anyone-Notices

Woman Dead For 18 Months Before Anyone Notices
Mary Sue Merchant
The home of Mary Sue Merchant is seen in Orangeburg, S.C. Merchant's body was found in her home last week. She had been dead for 18 months.

SEANNA ADCOX
Associated Press Writer

Published: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 at 7:24 a.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 at 7:24 a.m.

SANDY RUN, S.C. | Mary Sue Merchant died of natural causes in a tightly locked house on 25 acres in this small community, with only a dog for company. Now her small town is reflecting on why no one noticed for 18 months.

Nobody knew the reclusive widow was gone — not even when the house was sold for back taxes while her decomposing body lay inside. Sometime later, the lonely dog died of thirst in the same room.

"We didn't know this lady existed," Sheriff Thomas Summers said.

Only after the 72-year-old woman's body was found last week did it occur to neighbors they hadn't seen her in a while. And some people wonder if they've lost a fundamental connection of small-town life.

"We've lost the community," said the Rev. Neil Flowers, who plans to talk about Merchant on Sunday at Beulah United Methodist Church, a few miles from where Merchant died. "We do our own thing. We lead busy lives. We go and go and go ... and stay within our comfort zone."

By all accounts, Merchant and her husband kept to themselves. They had no children. The sheriff and coroner say one neighbor told them David Merchant was once a prison guard who feared retribution from former inmates — but officials couldn't confirm if he worked for the state.

David Merchant died in October 1985 at age 53 and his widow apparently lost touch with her own older sister years ago, said Calhoun County Coroner Donnie Porth, who's trying to determine that woman's last name and track her down. A sister-in-law who tried to call — once — found the phone disconnected and assumed Merchant had gotten a cell phone, Porth said. Through the coroner, the woman declined to speak to The Associated Press.

"It's a sad tragedy this lady had absolutely nobody who cared enough to check on her — very sad," the sheriff said.

His deputies check on about 200 senior citizens monthly in this county of less than 15,000, about 20 miles south of Columbia in central South Carolina. "But we have to know they're there," he said.

Sandy Run, which lacks even a traffic light, is an unincorporated community: a wide spot in the road that drivers could miss if they blink.

It's the kind of place where locals can usually be counted on to say that everybody knows everybody else.

But safety nets for seniors who live alone failed in Merchant's case, or didn't exist. Authorities believe she didn't attend church. Her only prescribed medicine was for glaucoma, so she wasn't on any medical check list.

Many older people rely on family to check in on them, especially in rural areas, said Mary Beth Fields, aging services coordinator for the area.

"You'd hope neighbors would call," she said.

Mail should've been a red flag. But Merchant had a post office box, so no mail piled up for neighbors or a carrier to notice. Her electricity was cut off in February 2008 after three months of unpaid bills.

Meanwhile, the brick ranch home sat partly obscured by trees and brush from the road, Merchant's white four-door Chevy parked in front and a faded "Beware of Dog" sign on a telephone pole.

Four days after Merchant's body was discovered with a loaded .38-caliber revolver beneath her pillow, neighbor Ed Spradley heard the news from a reporter. He said he never talked to Merchant, but realized it had been a while since her car had moved.

Across the street, neighbor Tonya Craven said if she'd known Merchant was all alone, she'd have checked on her. But she said they spoke only once when Craven's dog ran away.

Merchant fed and cared for about 15 wild dogs, so Craven wanted to see if her dog had joined the pack. "She was very generous to them," Craven said.

While talking with a reporter, it occurred to Craven she hadn't seen those dogs in some time.

Merchant's unpaid property taxes led to her discovery.

When she didn't pay a $234 bill in January 2008, the county mailed delinquency notices to her post office box, which came back as undeliverable. The property, worth about $160,000 according to county records, was sold Dec. 1, 2008, for $20,000, said county administrator Lee Prickett.

The buyer, local real estate agent Thomas Kohn, did not return messages seeking comment.

No one from the county walked the property before selling it. Prickett said that's considered trespassing because owners in debt have a year to pay.

But authorities say Kohn noticed Merchant's car never moved, so he asked deputies to check.

Officially, it's only assumed the remains discovered Thursday are Merchant's. Dental records are being checked before she is buried beside her husband in a prepaid plot in Newberry. An autopsy Friday determined she died of natural causes, though specifics are unknown due to the condition of the remains, said Porth. How long the dog — breed undetermined — lived without its owner is unknown; there was plenty of dog food in the house, but no water, Porth said.

Becky Rucker, owner of the local florist for 30 years, said she vaguely remembers David Merchant, but has been trying to recall what Mary Sue Merchant looked like.

"It's so sad. It makes me feel bad for our community," she said. "In this day, we're supposed to be out of everybody's business, but I think sometimes that goes too far."

Truly very sad,...She was so alone,...except for her dog, who died beside her.
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 08:10:15 PM »
My mom doesn't want to be one of those people whose body is found weeks after she dies, so I call her every day.
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 08:14:43 PM »
My mom doesn't want to be one of those people whose body is found weeks after she dies, so I call her every day.

Good advice for each and everyone of us!  And not only parents, but other family and friends could use regular contact.

Here is a question for everyone to ponder:

If you didn't hear from someone and they didn't answer a phone call or a knock at the door, how much time would pass before you hit the major level of concern?

I know it is different for different levels of relationship, and even for close relationship there are different levels of contact.  But, could your best friend lay dead for two days without your getting concerned?
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Re: Lost Souls.....
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 08:54:30 PM »
My mom doesn't want to be one of those people whose body is found weeks after she dies, so I call her every day.

Good advice for each and everyone of us!  And not only parents, but other family and friends could use regular contact.

Here is a question for everyone to ponder:

If you didn't hear from someone and they didn't answer a phone call or a knock at the door, how much time would pass before you hit the major level of concern?

I know it is different for different levels of relationship, and even for close relationship there are different levels of contact.  But, could your best friend lay dead for two days without your getting concerned?

Not long, anymore.

I lost a friend like that five years ago. I was still in a hospital bed, sleeping in my den when the phone call came in. A friend of ours called to tell us that they had found another friend sitting in his recliner with the TV remote still in his hand. He was a regular at the weekend 'watering hole'. He was like clock-work on Friday afternoons. You could count on him to be sitting at the end of the bar like Norm by 6:00 Friday afternoon, drinking Bud and eating. He didn't show up 'on time' one Friday and by 7:00 folks were making calls. Everyone figured he might be out of town or something (although he had no close family) and let it go. Another mutual friend of ours went to check on him at lunch the next day and found him in the recliner. He had had a massive coronary and went out just like that. My friend said he just looked like he was sitting there asleep with the remote in his hand.

I know in this case there's nothing anyone could have done except found him a little earlier, but it's still sad. (R.I.P., ELF)
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