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[Timothy]

I know Tom but my point was I don't believe that 90% of CA population is conservative, not even close...

I moved up here in 96, Bulger was then the President of UMass...seemed like a bit of a putz, I know he managed quite a nice retirement out of both his dealings on Beacon Hill and with the university...

Didn't know he was Senate chair but his famous brother Whitey has made problems for Billy.  Seems that Billy may have had contact with Whitey while UMass boss..  Like most things Bostonian, it get's buried in the paper that no one reads anyway.

I've not read a newspaper in twenty years, maybe thirty!

[TAB]

I know Tom but my point was I don't believe that 90% of CA population is conservative, not even close...

I moved up here in 96, Bulger was then the President of UMass...seemed like a bit of a putz, I know he managed quite a nice retirement out of both his dealings on Beacon Hill and with the university...

Didn't know he was Senate chair but his famous brother Whitey has made problems for Billy.  Seems that Billy may have had contact with Whitey while UMass boss..  Like most things Bostonian, it get's buried in the paper that no one reads anyway.

I've not read a newspaper in twenty years, maybe thirty!

I said area not population

[tombogan03884]

I know Tom but my point was I don't believe that 90% of CA population is conservative, not even close...

I moved up here in 96, Bulger was then the President of UMass...seemed like a bit of a putz, I know he managed quite a nice retirement out of both his dealings on Beacon Hill and with the university...

Didn't know he was Senate chair but his famous brother Whitey has made problems for Billy.  Seems that Billy may have had contact with Whitey while UMass boss..  Like most things Bostonian, it get's buried in the paper that no one reads anyway.

I've not read a newspaper in twenty years, maybe thirty!

What TAB said, Area, not population.

OFF TOPIC  I just got done reading Howie Carr's book, "The Brothers Bulger",(again ) I read "Black Mass" years ago. Surprisingly Whitey DID NOT make most of Billy's problems, beyond the one phone call that he was questioned about in Congressional hearings, (even though Flemmie, Connoly and several others testified that Billy often saw Whitey at Sunday dinners where the FBI agents and gangsters got together.
The majority of Billies problems came from, the socialist elements taking advantage of the fact that he was an old time "politician"  engaging in patronage and shady business deals. It's true that taxes in Mass went through the roof while the crooks were running things but they have only gone even higher under the socialists, and at least the crooks had the decency not to try to convince you that it was a GOOD thing.
OK, back to the topic 

[Timothy]

Area is meaningless as population is the only part of the equation that matters.  Why exactly, does CA have over 20% of the electoral votes necessary for a presidential election majority, when they only represent 13% of the American population?

Politics!     ..the system is still phuqued up beyond all recognition.

I will never agree that CA is conservative any more than I would think that of NY, MA, CT, RI, ME, VT or even sometimes NH.

Until such time as the media decides to keep their mouths shut until CA polls close at 11:00 EST, will we have a fair and balanced electoral cycle.  We've seen it happen time and time again.  More and more of the media outlets would have Edward R. Morrow rolling over in his grave.  Journalism is dead and gone in this country, truth is dying slowly and the commies that I chased 30 years ago are running the show.....!!

[TAB]

CA is a winner take all state. it does not matter if you win with one vote or 10  mil.  you still get all the electoral votes.

we also have the most house members.

If you break down votes by countys and districts, you will see that most of the "blue" are in urban areas, where as most of the "red" are in the burbs and rual areas.


Its alot worse then that, for primays, if you don't vote for your party, its not counted.  I'm not joking, if you are DEM and vote for a GOP it will not be counted.  If your like me and a indy, it will only be counted if you vote for a DEM.  If your a lib, it will only be counted if you vote GOP.

its very fucked up.  The sad part is most of this stuff has been voted into place... just look at the last election, we are broke, yet just about every single bill tat would cost us money, pasted.   I'm not sure if people don't care, or don't know.

How the DEM took over CA was back in the 70s, they ran on th e"uninon" for state employees platform... it fucked us as a state.

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[Hazcat]

Area is meaningless as population is the only part of the equation that matters.  Why exactly, does CA have over 20% of the electoral votes necessary for a presidential election majority, when they only represent 13% of the American population?

Politics!     ..the system is still phuqued up beyond all recognition.

I will never agree that CA is conservative any more than I would think that of NY, MA, CT, RI, ME, VT or even sometimes NH.

Until such time as the media decides to keep their mouths shut until CA polls close at 11:00 EST, will we have a fair and balanced electoral cycle.  We've seen it happen time and time again.  More and more of the media outlets would have Edward R. Morrow rolling over in his grave.  Journalism is dead and gone in this country, truth is dying slowly and the commies that I chased 30 years ago are running the show.....!!

Better than that, Tim.  The polls should open at the SAME TIME all across the US and close at the SAME TIME 24 hours later.

eg open 9am in the east and noon in the west the 24 hours later close. That way it all starts and stops at the same moment.  Any early reposting of surveys or polls should be illegal!

[Timothy]

Never mind, my math is wrong.....CA gets 55 votes of 538.....my bad....roughly 10%...

 

[TAB]

we have about 10% of the population, which is what electorail votes are based on.

[MikeBjerum]

Better than that, Tim.  The polls should open at the SAME TIME all across the US and close at the SAME TIME 24 hours later.

eg open 9am in the east and noon in the west the 24 hours later close. That way it all starts and stops at the same moment.  Any early reposting of surveys or polls should be illegal!

I agree!!!

And if the press screams First Amendment, I'd point out voter tampering.  It has been proven (I don't have my college notes and books here for reference) that posting of results and exit polls from one region affects voter turnout and voting in other regions.  I remember once back in the 80's when they tried to ban all early reporting that they talked of if the west coast heard the electoral votes were all there for a winner that voters quit going to the polls.