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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 05:43:33 AM »
The posts have been funy, but I do want to make one serious point that I try to pound into the heads of my students.
In my opinion (for whatever that's worth) there are six fundamental duties of citizenship:
1) obey the law
2)pay your taxws
3) serve if needed in a time of war
4) read the news paper so you are informed about current events
5) make an informed vote in elections
6) serve on a jury when called
 After all folks, one of your neighbors lives is litterally on the line here and its the jury that provides the buffer between the state's ability to totally ruin someone's life and the community's ability to temper that, or to take someone dangerous off the street. Here endeth the rant.
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 11:08:25 AM »
I have some horrendous jury stories tht I won't bore you with but there is one jury I wanted to be on. A local gentleman was charged with attempted 2nd degree murder after shooting a guy who broke in to his house and attacked him and his girlfriend. After almost a year of torturing this guy they finally dropped the charges so I didn't get to serve on that particular jury.
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 02:53:21 PM »
I've never had a problem with jury duty (of course my employer was paying me, which wasn't a factor, but it helped).
The only time I had to ask to be excused was when i was still in bed recovering from serious injuries. It was for Federal court, 100 miles from home, and the summons asked if there was any reason I couldn't serve. I wrote a letter and my doctor signed off on it and I was released. Have not been called since (had served twice before on fed duty).

First time I was called for local court I did try like hell to keep from getting on the jury when they were making selections. I knew the arresting officer (armed robbery case) and when asked if I knew anyone related to the case my hand went right up. Judge asked if that would keep me from being impartial. I couldn't lie, so I said no. Got stuck on the jury, but the guy pleaded out before the trial started the next day.
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 03:23:08 PM »
Yes he did get of the hook, with a stern talking to by the Judge. Hear in Montana that are lenient on you for a number of reasons. As I am self employed they have let me off during the summer season and let me serve during the winter. Ever time I have had to serve though, I new the defendant and told them I couldn't be impartial so thy let me go.

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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 03:35:50 PM »
Yes he did get of the hook, with a stern talking to by the Judge. Hear in Montana that are lenient on you for a number of reasons. As I am self employed they have let me off during the summer season and let me serve during the winter. Ever time I have had to serve though, I new the defendant and told them I couldn't be impartial so thy let me go.
Just shows you're running with the right class of folks. If you knew the prosecutor, I'd be worried. ;D
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2009, 03:49:05 PM »
Just shows you're running with the right class of folks. If you knew the prosecutor, I'd be worried. ;D
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I agree with FQ's previous post as well. The most important votes you have as a Citizen are on a Jury and a Grand Jury.
Jurors are not ONLY voting the guilt or innocence of the accused but the validity of the law as well.
Jury nullification is a hated but recognized situation where jurors refuse to enforce an unjust law.

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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2009, 04:11:17 PM »
I agree with FQ's previous post as well. The most important votes you have as a Citizen are on a Jury and a Grand Jury.
Jurors are not ONLY voting the guilt or innocence of the accused but the validity of the law as well.
Jury nullification is a hated but recognized situation where jurors refuse to enforce an unjust law.


Yep.
In all seriousness, that is exactly the point, indeed. Sort of a layman's system of checks and balances.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2009, 04:46:32 PM »
I live in town of about 2500 people. Its easy to know most of them in one way or another. The excuse seems to work ::)

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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2009, 06:20:33 PM »
I was called to jury duty on monday. It seems I get a summons every two years. Two years ago I sat on a jury at a criminal court. Monday, the pool I was in, was for a civil trial. I'm never picked at civil trials, because my answers to pre trial questions show my opinions to be based on absolutes. I don't consider the plantiffs feelings.
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Re: How to get out of Jury Duty Montana style.
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2009, 06:27:49 PM »
I was called to jury duty on monday. It seems I get a summons every two years. Two years ago I sat on a jury at a criminal court. Monday, the pool I was in, was for a civil trial. I'm never picked at civil trials, because my answers to pre trial questions show my opinions to be based on absolutes. I don't consider the plantiffs feelings.

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