Wisconsin Court Upholds GPS Tracking By Police

[TAB]

The simple fact its a machine doing it not a person.

[MikeBjerum]

The simple fact its a machine doing it not a person.

It's not the fact that it is a machine.  What bothers me is that it can be done without a warrant and without my knowledge.  Minnesota had the "photo cop" installed on traffic lights in the Twin Cities, and it was thrown out because it was not a person.  Didn't bother me, because it only took pictures of cars when they ran a red light and it got the car the license plate and the light.  This thing is being put on cars to see if you are going somewhere rather than catching you there.

If it is that important, go through the warrant procedure, or stay off my property (and the car is my private property)!

[TAB]

It's not the fact that it is a machine.  What bothers me is that it can be done without a warrant and without my knowledge.  Minnesota had the "photo cop" installed on traffic lights in the Twin Cities, and it was thrown out because it was not a person.  Didn't bother me, because it only took pictures of cars when they ran a red light and it got the car the license plate and the light.  This thing is being put on cars to see if you are going somewhere rather than catching you there.

If it is that important, go through the warrant procedure, or stay off my property (and the car is my private property)!

police can fallow you anytime they want, does not take a warrent.  Infact I wish I could get them to fallow me in about a month.  I'll be doing a comm'l remodel in a area that is known for gang violance.

[MikeBjerum]

Let them follow.  However, if they want to come on or in my property without probable cause they need a warrant.  That is what the Constitution says ... One State court may not agree, but I'll bet on appeal it will eventually change.

[bryand71]

Even though the device followed Sveum's car to private places, an officer tracking Sveum could have seen when his car entered or exited a garage, Lundsten reasoned. Attaching the device was not a violation, he wrote, because Sveum's driveway is a public place.

This is the part that bothers me the most, besides violating the 4th amendment, the driveway is usually part of someone's private property! Since when is my driveway a public place? Yes it can be seen from public view, but that does not make it a public place. Now, after having said that, the cops could have just followed him and waited for him to go to a public place to attach the GPS to his car. I still don't like it but it can be done that way too.

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[tt11758]

I wonder if they would consider your garage a "public place" if the door wasn't closed.  I mean, hell, if the guy's driveway is a public place, why not his open garage?

Makes me wonder how long it'll be before "Big Brother" requires each of us to have a GPS tracking device implanted in our persons.

[fightingquaker13]

I wonder if they would consider your garage a "public place" if the door wasn't closed.  I mean, hell, if the guy's driveway is a public place, why not his open garage?

Makes me wonder how long it'll be before "Big Brother" requires each of us to have a GPS tracking device implanted in our persons.

I remeber after McVeigh was convicted he did a jailhouse interview for Time. He had this quote where he was accusing DOD of doing all this experenmentation on him, including implanting a tracking chip (Operation:Follow the Redneck, later deemed a failure). The funny part was that some wise ass in advertising had placed a half page ad for those chips you can get implanted in your dog on the facing page. At the time I read it I was ROFL. Now, it seems a bit less funny.
FQ13

[bryand71]

I know that Oregon and North Carolina were talking about putting GPS in everyone's car to track the mileage each car traveled in the state and then the owner of the car was taxed based on the miles driven. This was to raise money for the highway fund to repair and build roads. I know it got a lot of opposition here, haven't heard too much about it lately.
If this were to be implemented, then the LEO wouldn't need to tag your car, they could just access the DMV database that would be set up to keep records of everyone's mileage.

[tombogan03884]

Lowjack anti theft system is the same thing.

[Pathfinder]

I wonder if they would consider your garage a "public place" if the door wasn't closed.  I mean, hell, if the guy's driveway is a public place, why not his open garage?

Makes me wonder how long it'll be before "Big Brother" requires each of us to have a GPS tracking device implanted in our persons.

If your window shades are open, anything that happens in view of the window is fair game for the cops. So is an open garage door.

And in answer to your last question, 20 years, no more, maybe less.