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The Great Water Heist
« on: May 12, 2009, 01:08:25 AM »
Senate Bill 787 will change federal jurisdiction over "navigable" water, to give the federal government control over all water everywhere, in municipal reservoirs, and on private lands, and in private wells. This bill ignores state water law authority and the Fifth Amendment.of the U.S. Constitution,.......
The federal government now has a bill in process that will expand the definition of "navigable waters of the United States," to simply "waters of the United States."  This will mean that all water, everywhere, belongs to the federal government.  The bill also defines the land, on and under which water flows, to be the waters of the United States.  The bill also explicitly authorizes federal regulation of all "activity that affects" the water of the United States or the land on which it may fall. Henry Lamb has prepared this short video to expose this Great Water Heist. 

They want to take total control over Farming.
Now they want total control over all bodies of water too. >:(


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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 01:26:09 AM »
Screw that! There are more then 16 different tanks (ponds) on my family's property. Including a hand dug water well (dug by my grandfather and great-grandfather that taps into a spring fed source) along with a 500ft deep well drilled down into one of the best water sources in this area. Not only that, a creek runs through almost the entire diagonal length of the property. We also have mineral rights for the oil and natural gas captured and hauled off the property.

If they get away with taking control of private waters, the next step is mineral rights, and then land ownership altogether. Damn this horse manure government and is overwhelming desire to control it's citizens.

Damn it all to hell, that pisses me off.
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 04:29:06 AM »
Sponsored by Feingold, but do check out the list of co-sponsors - it's a veritable who's who of whack jobs and known fascists.

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    * Sen. Russell Feingold [D, WI]
    * and 23 Co-Sponsors
          o Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA]
          o Sen. Sherrod Brown [D, OH]
          o Sen. Maria Cantwell [D, WA]
          o Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D, MD]
          o Sen. Thomas Carper [D, DE]
          o Sen. Christopher Dodd [D, CT]
          o Sen. Richard Durbin [D, IL]
          o Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY-20]
          o Sen. John Kerry [D, MA]
          o Sen. Herbert Kohl [D, WI]
          o Sen. Frank Lautenberg [D, NJ]
          o Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT]
          o Sen. Carl Levin [D, MI]
          o Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I, CT]
          o Sen. Robert Menéndez [D, NJ]
          o Sen. Jeff Merkley [D, OR]
          o Sen. John Reed [D, RI]
          o Sen. Bernard Sanders [I, VT]
          o Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY]
          o Sen. Jeanne Shaheen [D, NH]
          o Sen. Debbie Ann Stabenow [D, MI]
          o Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D, RI]
          o Sen. Ron Wyden [D, OR]
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 09:17:53 AM »
 The SOS list, and I DON'T mean sh!t on a Shingle.

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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 09:30:51 AM »
Here is text of the bill:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.787:


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The term `waters of the United States' means all waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing, to the fullest extent that these waters, or activities affecting these waters, are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution.'.



(9) `ground waters' are treated separately from `waters of the United States' for purposes of the Federal Water Pollution Control Act and are not considered `waters of the United States' under this Act;

(13)(A) as set forth in section 6, nothing in this Act modifies or otherwise affects the amendments made by the Clean Water Act of 1977 (Public Law 95-217; 91 Stat. 1566) to the Federal Water Pollution Control Act that exempted certain activities, such as farming, silviculture, and ranching activities, as well as agricultural stormwater discharges and return flows from oil, gas, and mining operations and irrigated agriculture, from particular permitting requirements;
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Re: The Great Water Heist
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 09:36:24 AM »
This bill rings a bell.  It seems to me that some years back the UN was proposing that we (Government) do this.  It was defeated (no, not the 'sea treaty')

Anyone have a better (clearer) memory?
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 11:04:05 PM »
Let's see here, if the feds control all of the water, they can control food production, they control food production, they control you and me.
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 12:12:22 PM »
The SOS list, and I DON'T mean sh!t on a Shingle.

Beat me to it.  Can I get a GPS location for each?

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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 01:19:43 PM »
I am stunned by the fact that Senators from my home State of Michigan support this.  The only other "Great Lakes States" senators not mentioned are Indiana and Minnesota.  The "Great Lakes States" have fought for years to prevent intrusion and diversion (control) of these large bodies of fresh water.  P.S.  I am not really "stunned' by the actions of our two Senators.  They are so buried up to their eyeballs with the United Auto Workers and the Teacher's Union that we can't get rid of them.  One just has to look at what has happened here. 
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Re: The Great Water Heist
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 06:41:43 PM »
I am stunned by the fact that Senators from my home State of Michigan support this.  The only other "Great Lakes States" senators not mentioned are Indiana and Minnesota.  The "Great Lakes States" have fought for years to prevent intrusion and diversion (control) of these large bodies of fresh water.  P.S.  I am not really "stunned' by the actions of our two Senators.  They are so buried up to their eyeballs with the United Auto Workers and the Teacher's Union that we can't get rid of them.  One just has to look at what has happened here. 

On another thread here, someone brought up the old Miami joke: "Would the last American leaving Miami please bring the flag".  With the way the fine folks of the unions and Democrat party have hosed MI, it could apply to the mitten state as well.
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