Body armor poll

[tombogan03884]

This may not be popular but I believe only the military, security details and police should own body armor. They are the ones who are paid and trained to deal with threats up to and including deadly force and the uniform makes them a target. Civilians have no reason to wear body armor unless they are a confirmed target by some psycho. Captured criminals do not deserve body armor either. Just my personal opinion.

If you frequently posted "dumb" or contrary opinions I (and probably others) would jump all over you. (I know that's hard to believe)
I'll just point out that you are forgetting people like store owners who have to take their cash to the bank, just for one example.
I want to hear your reasoning before I go any further.

[TAB]

retail jobs are number 1 on being assulted... LEOs are nto even in the top 5.

Having worn body armor, trust me, you  don't want too.  unless you have too.

Body armor that is not worn= usless.  better off taking the 1000-2500 and paying for a good SD class or securing your home.

[brosometal]

This may not be popular but I believe only the military, security details and police should own body armor. They are the ones who are paid and trained to deal with threats up to and including deadly force and the uniform makes them a target. Civilians have no reason to wear body armor unless they are a confirmed target by some psycho. Captured criminals do not deserve body armor either. Just my personal opinion.

In a country that was founded on the idea that the government should fear its citizens and not the other way around, any equipment that LEOs can use should be available to law abiding citizens.  Simple checks and balances. Authority will be abused regardless who has it.

When you get to the point that you say law abiding citizens can't own a particular item, how long before guns are on that list?  Stay consistent in thought.

[TAB]

In a country that was founded on the idea that the government should fear its citizens and not the other way around, any equipment that LEOs can use should be available to law abiding citizens.  Simple checks and balances. Authority will be abused regardless who has it.

When you get to the point that you say law abiding citizens can't own a particular item, how long before guns are on that list?  Stay consistent in thought.

so I should be able to walk down tot he hardware store and buy a nuke?

[tombogan03884]

so I should be able to walk down tot he hardware store and buy a nuke?

Yes, if you have the ability to transport and store it safely.

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[TAB]

Yes, if you have the ability to transport and store it safely.

All that really takes is money.


as I've said before, every single college campus has all of the info needed to design and build a nuke.  They are really not that hard.  its jus tthe infrustructure needed to mine, refine and then machine the fissionable materal is $$$$$$$$$

[brosometal]

so I should be able to walk down tot he hardware store and buy a nuke?

Fishin's easy!

First, I said LEO, and if you have ever purchased a smoke detector from the hardware store, you have.  

If there comes a time when the military is forced to regulate domestically, there are far worse problems than whether or not my AR has two clicks or three.

[fightingquaker13]

Body armor is freely availablenow. When was the last time you remember it being an issue? Probably that bank heist in LA a few years back. Not an everyday problem. TAB is right on one point. The stuff is both expensive an uncomfortable. Crooks will pay a few hundred for a gun. Most aren't going to drop $1500 for a vest, and fewer still will wear it. If they were going to, wouldn't it be making the news? This just seems like a non-issue.Very few civvies want body armor. Fewer need it. Fewer still would wear it.But who am I to tell them no? Its not not a problem and not my business.
FQ13

[PegLeg45]

In a country that was founded on the idea that the government should fear its citizens and not the other way around, any equipment that LEOs can use should be available to law abiding citizens.  Simple checks and balances. Authority will be abused regardless who has it.

When you get to the point that you say law abiding citizens can't own a particular item, how long before guns are on that list?  Stay consistent in thought.

And, that right there is everything in a neat little package. Pretty much sums it up in my book.

[MikeBjerum]

This may not be popular but I believe only the military, security details and police should own body armor. They are the ones who are paid and trained to deal with threats up to and including deadly force and the uniform makes them a target. Civilians have no reason to wear body armor unless they are a confirmed target by some psycho. Captured criminals do not deserve body armor either. Just my personal opinion.

So, when TT11... (damn handle is as big as he is) received the death threat a couple months ago, what process should he have to go through to protect himself and his wife