Body armor poll

[tt11758]

Mike, you make a good point.  Here's my two-cent's worth:  the statement "why would anybody need" is the same argument that the anti's are using to push an AWB.  I may NEVER need a vest.  I pray to God that I never need the handgun that I carry on my person on a daily basis, or the other "arrangements" that I've made to protect those important to me.  But who the HELL is anybody to tell me that I don't "need" them?!?  What I need and what I choose to use to defend myself and my family are nobody else's business......nor will they KNOW what I have available unless they try to harm me and mine, and if they do that they won't be sharing the information.  The Constitution is very clear......what part of "shall not be infringed" is so goddamn hard to understand?!?

Do I need it?  Hopefully not.  But I pay for car insurance hoping I'll never be involved in an accident, too.

Here endeth the rant.

[Texas_Bryan]

Mike, you make a good point.  Here's my two-cent's worth:  the statement "why would anybody need" is the same argument that the anti's are using to push an AWB.  I may NEVER need a vest.  I pray to God that I never need the handgun that I carry on my person on a daily basis, or the other "arrangements" that I've made to protect those important to me.  But who the HELL is anybody to tell me that I don't "need" them?!?  What I need and what I choose to use to defend myself and my family are nobody else's business......nor will they KNOW what I have available unless they try to harm me and mine, and if they do that they won't be sharing the information.  The Constitution is very clear......what part of "shall not be infringed" is so goddamn hard to understand?!?

Do I need it?  Hopefully not.  But I pay for car insurance hoping I'll never be involved in an accident, too.

Here endeth the rant.

If someones uses the 'why do you need' argument, then I ask them about alcohol.  Turns out most hippies are drunks, and why do you need booze, can't you have fun with out booze?  Booze kills people,  we should just ban it, I know you don't drive drunk but can't you have a good time with out drink?  What purpose does drink serve?  What do you mean we shouldn't punish you cause others aren't responsible?  But your booze kills little kids all the time.

Same thing if they drive a sports car.  People go racing around kill people during their illegal street races we should just outlaw sports cars, you don't need a muscle car.

The fact is if you can't change a hippies mind on the topic you can make them realize how stupid their argument is.  Put them on the defensive.

[Ping]

I apologize for my comments, but I still feel the same. I agree about it being no ones business about owning or wearing body armor. I did mention that my view about it may not be popular. I have made many posts on this forum and I try to shoot straight on what I am posting about. But one thing I do not agree with is body armor.
Yes, I have worn a vest. I wore a flak jacket in the military and a Threat Level 3 Vest when I worked for the Sheriff Dept. But seeing gangbangers having the opportunity to purchase body armor to commit their crimes and give them a fighting chance against law enforcement officers, then I have a serious issue with that.
My whole perspective is the safety of the law enforcement officer. Contrary to the paranoid belief that the cops and military are out to take your guns, I can honestly say that the officers I know or have known over the years side with people able to bear arms.
I hope this explains a little more as to why I am biased about this subject. If it still continues to piss people off, then you are wasting your emotions on negative energy that will get you no where. But I will not be a pussy and back down just because a few did not care for my opinion. 

[1911 Junkie]

Just to be clear, if we outlaw body armor so gangbangers can't get it, then they won't.
Just like guns or drugs, right?

[Ping]

Never said anything about outlawing it. I am not a lawmaker. I just gave an opinion and explained why I feel the way I do about body armor. The 2nd Amendment supports our right to bear arms, not wear body armor. But if a person chooses to wear armor, good for them. What I stress is that I do not care for "gangbangers or criminals" to have access to purchase body armor!!!

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[brosometal]

Ping,

I don't believe you need to change an opinion to suit the majority, either here or any other arena.  I also believe what people are saying here (me included) is consistancy in thought is needed when speaking of RTKBA.  When you open a small crack, it will be exploited in ways you could never imgaine

With your background in LE, you have a unique perspective of the situation that others here do not, but that is a double edged sword as illustrated earlier in the thread with the neighborhood with the gang problem.  I believe the "sticky wicket" so to speak is criminals and law abiding citizens just as with firearms.  Because they are illegal does not mean that criminals will follow those laws.  We all know this. 

I wouldn't lose any sleep over the differences here.  Heck, I'm a Hurricane fan in Gator country so I know I won't as I'm sure you won't either.  It's just a simple difference of opinion.

[fightingquaker13]

Brosometal is right Ping. Here, its all in the family, as least as far as 2A issues go. If we couldn't argue here, then where? Besides, If Tom doesn't get to get bitchy once a day, then he and TAB will be scuffling over the last bottle of midol and thats never a pretty sight. Entertainng, but not pretty.
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[tombogan03884]

I apologize for my comments, but I still feel the same. I agree about it being no ones business about owning or wearing body armor. I did mention that my view about it may not be popular. I have made many posts on this forum and I try to shoot straight on what I am posting about. But one thing I do not agree with is body armor.
Yes, I have worn a vest. I wore a flak jacket in the military and a Threat Level 3 Vest when I worked for the Sheriff Dept. But seeing gangbangers having the opportunity to purchase body armor to commit their crimes and give them a fighting chance against law enforcement officers, then I have a serious issue with that.
My whole perspective is the safety of the law enforcement officer. Contrary to the paranoid belief that the cops and military are out to take your guns, I can honestly say that the officers I know or have known over the years side with people able to bear arms.
I hope this explains a little more as to why I am biased about this subject. If it still continues to piss people off, then you are wasting your emotions on negative energy that will get you no where. But I will not be a pussy and back down just because a few did not care for my opinion. 

I don't agree with you but I figured you would have a reason for the way you think.
I WILL point out though that in NH and several other states, wearing body armor during the commission of a crime is in its self ALREADY a crime.

Broso, I've got to ask, How the hell can a Floridian be a FAN of Hurricanes ? 

NOTE FOR FQ, I'm only bitchy with those who are intellectually dishonest, mere difference of opinion gives me no problem.

[brosometal]

Dad helped coach HS football when we lived in Miami.  One of the guy s he coached went and played at the University of Miami.  He happened to be a childhood hero of mine.  So the rest, they say, is history.  As for the actual weather pattern, it helps thin the herd.

[tombogan03884]

Dad helped coach HS football when we lived in Miami.  One of the guy s he coached went and played at the University of Miami.  He happened to be a childhood hero of mine.  So the rest, they say, is history.  As for the actual weather pattern, it helps thin the herd.

I guess, some of them land all the way up here