A Thousand Words

[PegLeg45]

If I'm out of line on this, then oh well. I have to say something about this bullshit or I wouldn't be true to my personal beliefs. So...FQ13, while I have never agreed with many of your comments, I recently find myself thinking that a very large portion of your posts/comments are worth less then worm feces.

Now, I say this because you seemed to be a well educated and an informed person, but you still chose to vote for Obama. And being as informed as you make yourself out to be, there is absolutely no excuse for your actions. So by voting for someone that you knew to be hugely ANTI-gun and insanely ANTI-American, you threw away your complaint card. That in turn, nullifies any response on rights and freedoms you have to offer.

That being said, I am not suggesting any kind of admin actions. It is, after all, STILL (FOR NOW) a free country to state your opinion, but for me from now on, when I see you have posted something, I will quickly dismiss it as worthless banter.

Tirade over!

Sorry True Texan, just HAD to add that little tid-bit to make it true to the current administration.......

[Rastus]

If I'm out of line on this, then oh well. I have to say something about this bullshit or I wouldn't be true to my personal beliefs. So...FQ13, while I have never agreed with many of your comments, I recently find myself thinking that a very large portion of your posts/comments are worth less then worm feces.

Now, I say this because you seemed to be a well educated and an informed person, but you still chose to vote for Obama. And being as informed as you make yourself out to be, there is absolutely no excuse for your actions. So by voting for someone that you knew to be hugely ANTI-gun and insanely ANTI-American, you threw away your complaint card. That in turn, nullifies any response on rights and freedoms you have to offer.

That being said, I am not suggesting any kind of admin actions. It is, after all, STILL a free country to state your opinion, but for me from now on, when I see you have posted something, I will quickly dismiss it as worthless banter.

Tirade over!

Gee TT, tell us what you really think...   

That picture of BHO says it well.  Here you have a guy that people like because he tells them what they want to hear and has a great speaking voice.  No matter that he's a liar to boot.  Tells you something about the people who voted for him...one fry short of a happy meal or ignorant or overcome with indignant self-righteous rage or...who knows..

BHO, someone who got somewhere with a smile....sort of like a beauty pageant contestent...you don't have to have substance of character only...a great bod.  In the case of a politician, they don't need a bod, a smile and a line will get them as far as their lack of character feels good about the using the smile and line and...oh..the puppet masters behind them.

[brosometal]

ROFL! You owe me a new keyboard and I voted for the guy (or against the other guy but still). That was just too good.
FQ13

Sorry to hear about your cranial/rectal inversion.  And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

[fightingquaker13]

Sorry to hear about your cranial/rectal inversion.  And I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Leaving aside any unkind comments about your avatar and its resemblence to a certain party's mascot.........
At the very least you may take heart in the fact that you don't have be a conservative Republican to be pro-2A.This is a good thing, because otherwise it will be a pretty small club. While I never have and never will vote for the president on a single issue, I come pretty close  when it comes to Congress and will be voting for Christ in 2010's senate race. If you want me to vote GOP in 2012, find me a canidate. (Or I can click my heels togehther 3 times and hope the LP puts somebody serious forward).
FQ13

[brosometal]

I wrote the above before reading the whole thread as a quick retort to a funny post...   Then I read the rest.  

FQ13 we gotta talk.  I haven't been super active here in the last few months, but I've noticed some new names, yours among them. So welcome and  I have a couple of questions.

In the interest of full disclosure, I, too, didn't vote for McCain.
 
What is it about the Rep. party that you have distasteful?  I have a R on my voters registration card, but I will not be voting that way until a true conservative shows the intestinal fortitude to stand up for principles and not for Democrat/Socialist/Fascist light that passes for ideas presently.  You mentioned Crist, the present governor of my fine state.  Does he represent the Rep. ideal?  If so, what are the principles that make up his belief system.  Now I don't wanna get too wordy and make this seem like a homework assignment.  I would just like to hear/read what you are thinking, here, in the great arena of ideas.

Thanks.  I look forward to typing back.

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[fightingquaker13]

I wrote the above before reading the whole thread as a quick retort to a funny post...   Then I read the rest.  

FQ13 we gotta talk.  I haven't been super active here in the last few months, but I've noticed some new names, yours among them. So welcome and  I have a couple of questions.

In the interest of full disclosure, I, too, didn't vote for McCain.
 
What is it about the Rep. party that you have distasteful?  I have a R on my voters registration card, but I will not be voting that way until a true conservative shows the intestinal fortitude to stand up for principles and not for Democrat/Socialist/Fascist light that passes for ideas presently.  You mentioned Crist, the present governor of my fine state.  Does he represent the Rep. ideal?  If so, what are the principles that make up his belief system.  Now I don't wanna get too wordy and make this seem like a homework assignment.  I would just like to hear/read what you are thinking, here, in the great arena of ideas.

Thanks.  I look forward to typing back.

Thanks for the post.
The short version is that philosophically, I'm a libertarian. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative (though not in a doctrinaire way), and strong on defense (again though I prefer a realist approach to FP rather than the idealism of either Carter or W). I voted twice for Bush senior, even though I disagreed with him on abortion and would do so again. My problem with the current GOP is threefold.
First, they have caved to the religious right on social issues. These folks don't believe in small government, they WANT the state to push their moral/religious agenda. I'm a Christian, but my priest should persuade me on Sunday, not pass laws telling other folks how to live.
Secondly on the economic front, they have gotten too doctrinaire about taxes and the market and failed to regulate. I'm not talking about socialism here just things like full disclosure for investors and requiring that banks and insurance companies have enough reserves to meet obligations (which would have averted the mortgage crisis).
Thirdly, W took a U turn from his dads foriegn policy. Frankly I think Reagan gets too much credit for the end of the Cold War. He may have helped break the back of the USSR for which he deserves great praise, but it was Bush the elder who made sure it went peacefully, which was by no means a given. The only serious bloodshed was in Yugoslavia which is a minor miracle. W is an idealist who wants to make the world a better, more Democratic place by using US power. Justas with Wilson and Carter before him, we realized thats not such a good idea. We need a more truely conservative FP such as that put forward by Ike and Bush 1.0.
That is my beef with the current GOP. None of it is an endorsment of the dems, and frankly I'm tired of arguing about my vote, its over with.
As far as Crist, I like the fact he seems to be a smart, practical guy, who has done a pretty good job as governor, partly by avoiding ideolgy and building pretty broad coaltions. He seems like a GOP Bob Graham, just a steady hand on the tiller.
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

Just to get my views out in the open as well,I am an "America First, last and only" I don't give a sh.. Crap how you keep your sheets warm, but being a pervert is neither something to brag about nor is it something to base your politics on, Abortion is a medical procedure sometimes required, to expect a heart transplant or amputation "on demand" is asinine, same with abortion.
Abortion and "gay rights" are smoke screens to hide the fact that politicians ARE NOT doing what is best for the country, only what gets them reelected. America was built on Judeo/ chistian beliefs, if you don't like that to fu#king bad.
Speak English or go home.
Real issues
Taxes and entitlements: The only legitimate expenses of the US Govt are the defense budget and running the Post office and these should be financed, as they were originally, through tariffs on imports
The population is not "entitled" to anything unemployment and Social Security are paid for by workers and employers and are only administered (badly) by the govt.
Foreign policy: Let them hate us, just so long as they fear us, if they don't fear us enough we need to fix that.
Law: Murderers, rapists, and corrupt or incompetent officials should be killed, publicly, like in China.
"Activists" that try to change or weaken the Constitution, such as the Brady bunch should have their gatherings broken up by club wielding citizens.

[bryand71]

Just to get my views out in the open as well,I am an "America First, last and only" I don't give a sh.. Crap how you keep your sheets warm, but being a pervert is neither something to brag about nor is it something to base your politics on, Abortion is a medical procedure sometimes required, to expect a heart transplant or amputation "on demand" is asinine, same with abortion.
Abortion and "gay rights" are smoke screens to hide the fact that politicians ARE NOT doing what is best for the country, only what gets them reelected. America was built on Judeo/ chistian beliefs, if you don't like that to fu#king bad.
Speak English or go home.
Real issues
Taxes and entitlements: The only legitimate expenses of the US Govt are the defense budget and running the Post office and these should be financed, as they were originally, through tariffs on imports
The population is not "entitled" to anything unemployment and Social Security are paid for by workers and employers and are only administered (badly) by the govt.
Foreign policy: Let them hate us, just so long as they fear us, if they don't fear us enough we need to fix that.
Law: Murderers, rapists, and corrupt or incompetent officials should be killed, publicly, like in China.
"Activists" that try to change or weaken the Constitution, such as the Brady bunch should have their gatherings broken up by club wielding citizens.

I happen to agree on this with you, but have to point out something you forgot to mention. No laws should be passed that supercede or limit the original Bill of Rights! That would go a long way to getting this country back to where it should be.  Just my .02

[Timothy]

Socially liberal, fiscally conservative
FQ13

I looked these two terms up and combined they define "Oxymoron"....you are a contradiction in every way....neo-liberal centerist conservative.....

Did you ever watch the movie Sybil? 

I'm going to agree with another poster here and consider any further diatribe from you as utter nonsense.  Your free to utter your molten crazy but to quote another liberal "Were all full up!".......

[fightingquaker13]

I looked these two terms up and combined they define "Oxymoron"....you are a contradiction in every way....neo-liberal centerist conservative.....

Actually Timothy, those two terms combined define Classical Liberalism, the philosophy that founded this country. Don't take my word for it, as I'm full of molten crazy. Instead, try reading John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty", John Lockes "Second Treatise on Civil Government" (the cliff notes version of which is known as the Declaration Of Independence, which is also worth a read  ) or Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations". All of these works espouse the idea of both social and economic freedom. Its called individualism and there's nothing oxymoronic about being socially liberal and fiscally conservative. But hey, what do I know, I'm just crazy. Argue with with Franklin and Jefferson instead.
FQ13