SR556

[blackwolfe]

I expect this will probably end up selling in the $1500-$1600 range after the intial rush, as some people will buy them whatever the cost.    I was told once years ago from a knowledgeable source that generaly the cost to wholesalelers for Ruger's products was 37% less than MSRP.  That formula would put it about $1257 to wholesalers.   I don't know if this is in line with other piston AR types or not as I haven't looked at them.

I would think that we will also see this in some other configureations.  I noticed that it uses Ruger's AC556 flash hider.  Unless Ruger changed it, the thread patern on the AC556 is not the standard AR thread pattern.  If Ruger kept the the AC556 threads, I think that would be a detrement to sales as the choices of other flash hiders and compensators would be limited.
 
Would be nice if you could get it as an upper only.

In addition to this I wish Ruger had made a standard AR with the Ruger name on it in the normal AR price range as I think that would sell.  It wouldn't be an existing platform redefined, but as I said, I think it would sell with the Ruger name on it if it was quality built.

What I think would sell even better is a .308 battle rifle.  Make it available in different configurations including blue steel and wood, with cheap common mags, and afordable.  That I think would sell extreamly well.   

Ruger are you listening?

[Texas_Bryan]

I expect this will probably end up selling in the $1500-$1600 range after the intial rush, as some people will buy them whatever the cost.    I was told once years ago from a knowledgeable source that generaly the cost to wholesalelers for Ruger's products was 37% less than MSRP.  That formula would put it about $1257 to wholesalers.   I don't know if this is in line with other piston AR types or not as I haven't looked at them.

I would think that we will also see this in some other configureations.  I noticed that it uses Ruger's AC556 flash hider.  Unless Ruger changed it, the thread patern on the AC556 is not the standard AR thread pattern.  If Ruger kept the the AC556 threads, I think that would be a detrement to sales as the choices of other flash hiders and compensators would be limited.
 
Would be nice if you could get it as an upper only.

In addition to this I wish Ruger had made a standard AR with the Ruger name on it in the normal AR price range as I think that would sell.  It wouldn't be an existing platform redefined, but as I said, I think it would sell with the Ruger name on it if it was quality built.

What I think would sell even better is a .308 battle rifle.  Make it available in different configurations including blue steel and wood, with cheap common mags, and afordable.  That I think would sell extreamly well.   

Ruger are you listening?

Bushmaster's goes for around $1500, POF $1500-$2000.  Didn't know the flash suppressor was removable, my Mini 14 GB has the same one.  They may bring out more after this one, after all, what of Ruger do they only have one type of?  Should have made an M1A they are already experience on the platform, but I guess its a fanboy thing.

[ericire12]

OK, five pages from gun nuts who are so easy  its lucky we weren't born girls. At least one of whom has plenty of cash to buy the thing (yes Bill I'm talking about you ), and zero positive comments. Not one, zero, zip, nada. They better hope they get a military, LEO or Mexican drug cartel contract or this thing will have the life expectancy of a startrek redshirt. Just sad.
FQ13

Well, the problem here centers around the price point...... This looks to me like this is probably a pretty solid rifle and should perform as good or better then most entry level ARs..... the problem is that Ruger does not have the cred in this market niche to try and sell a $2000 AR.

Yes, they added about $300 or $400 or so in "upgrades" to this rifle (Some of which I personally would not want on it if it were my AR). However, the bottom line here is that this is NOT a $2000 rifle. They should have left off some of the candy and came to market with a more standard AR at around the $1000-$1200 price point.

This gun will not fly off the shelves.  

[TAB]

ruger does not have the cred to build anything that costs 2k.

hell thier latest guns have all had recalls, and these were lower priced guns.   no one is going to spend what ammounts to the upper end of the market price for a "new and unproven design" From a company that has had a very bad track record of the last few years.   Not to mention that ruger has never been known for thier fit and finish or their machine work. 

[dj454]

If I buy an AR it will be of the gas piston variety. I do not like the direct impingment system on AR's. This rifle appears to have everything I want in an AR. I know the gas piston AR's are more expensive(the reason I don't own one yet) but 2k seems realy steep even with all the goodies it comes with. I'm sure they will sell for less but I don't know if the market is too crowded for yet another AR. And to the the people hoping to see another 1911 would that really be any better what can be done to a 1911 that hasn't already been done 10 times over. I hope this rifle does well because I like their products but I am skeptical after the past 2 recalls. I am excited about the LCR(R not P)but I will wait on that one as well to see if there are any issues with it.

[Sponsor]

[blackwolfe]

TexasBryan,
The AC556 and GB flash hiders are removeable, at least the older ones are.  I think the end of the barrel actually stops against a shoulder  on the inside of the flash hider.  I have one laying around hear somewhere.  I think it is 9/16 x ?  It may not even be a standard 9/16.  I was tinkering with a 10/22 converting it to look like a min Mini-14.

[Texas_Bryan]

ruger does not have the cred to build anything that costs 2k.

hell thier latest guns have all had recalls, and these were lower priced guns.   no one is going to spend what ammounts to the upper end of the market price for a "new and unproven design" From a company that has had a very bad track record of the last few years.   Not to mention that ruger has never been known for thier fit and finish or their machine work. 

The SR9 and LCP were 'new and unproven', AR's aren't, lesser known companies make AR's and make them well.  I'm going to give Ruger the benefit here, gas piston, full quad rails, and troy sights that may come out to $2000.  Am I going to buy it, no, I don't want a $2000 AR, but some one, hell I bet alot of people, would like to buy it.  Look at premium ARs out there from companies like Sabre Defense and the like, they're almost the same price and they aren't gas piston.  Bottom line is this is a premium priced AR, but being Ruger we were expecting something in the middle of the road.  That is what I think your disappointed in, not this weapon or its price, give it a couple of mouths and I bet Ruger comes out with the value based weapon we expect.

[twyacht]

Did some of the former auto execs. go to Ruger?

Who decided the price point at $1900-$2000?

M+P 15T AR's started at $700-800.00 made to STAG specs, and sold, than the greed and "BHO scare started", and prices went up. I understand market dictates price, but Geez..... Promo price would have been a better call. SEEING HOW 5.56 & .223 AMMO IS SCARCE!

Now, a company that has NEVER made an AR clone is out with one. Not saying its bad, it may be awesome, but $2000?

ruger does not have the cred to build anything that costs 2k.

hell thier latest guns have all had recalls, and these were lower priced guns.   no one is going to spend what ammounts to the upper end of the market price for a "new and unproven design" From a company that has had a very bad track record of the last few years.   Not to mention that ruger has never been known for thier fit and finish or their machine work. 

WOW! I agree with TAB. My Sig 556 was $1150.00 last year, NOW they are around $1400-$1500.  Where is the marketing, demographic, and competition research team at Ruger. For that price, I'll get the DPMS with extras....

[long762range]

I'm just afraid that the trigger pull will be about 20 pounds like my GP100 felt.  I loved the GP100 but I could not keep it on target with a double action pull.  Put a lot of holes in the upper right quadrent until I took it to a good smith who lightened and smooth the trigger.

For me so spend 2k on a rifle it had better darn well be national match quality and give me 1 moa at the least.

[1776 Rebel]

Step 1 - Ruger CEO reads the newspaper and sees that GUNS are hot.
Step 2 - Ruger design team works on blueprints for NEW GUN
Step 3 - Ruger design team decides its easier to take government specs on AR to management and pitch it as NEW
Step 4 - Ruger CEO says to design team "what is that?"
Step 5 - Ruger design team tells him it will be the hottest NEW GUN on the market
Step 6 - Approval granted to manufacture
Step 7 - Grand Unveiling May 15 2009
Step 8 - Volume shipment to begin May 15 2010
Step 9 - Recall announced on NEW GUN May 16 2010
Step 10 - Ruger CEO reads newspaper that GUNS no longer hot May 17 2010