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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2009, 04:48:14 PM »

One of the guys asked the AG "If we shoot to defend the cash we go to jail?" and she said yes. He asked the Fed rep "If we Don't shoot to defend the cash you will put us in jail?" he said yes. "So no matter what happens we are going to jail"


Classic! It's called Catch-22, and Joseph Heller couldn't make this crap up.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2009, 05:54:30 PM »
just a FYI,  if you draw your weapon, most companys will fire you on the spot.  does not matter if it was a good shoot or not.  your simply to big of a liabilty risk to employ.( no I'm not talking in general, I'm talking about armed guards, of which I was one breifly)
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2009, 10:50:48 PM »
just a FYI,  if you draw your weapon, most companys will fire you on the spot.  does not matter if it was a good shoot or not.  your simply to big of a liabilty risk to employ.( no I'm not talking in general, I'm talking about armed guards, of which I was one breifly)

I'm willing to do my job and go home unemployed than worry about the "milk money" and go home dead.

Do these companies allow you to have ammo, or do they just provide you with big name tags with "Barney" on them?
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 03:23:23 PM »
When I worked at a retail store that had armored pickup I asked the guard what the had in the way of training. He laughed a little and said, "I hunt"... So I asked if he felt comfortable with carrying and he again laughed and said, "I have it but I doubt I would ever use it." The fact that most security firms who hire armed guards rarely provide satisfactory training and are more likely to get sued for the actions of a guard defending themselves or others that I'm surprised that they can do their job or stay in business. Personally having done 2 years in security myself I am so very glad I quit. Hell the local agency here in Pittsburgh literally hires people off the street with no background and provides them with the bare minimum of training required by law or insurance to do nothing but look busy. Idiots like that deserve to go out of business.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 03:35:08 PM »
Most security officers at facilities around here aren't allowed to carry firearms due to company policy (liability issues). Local hospital has a large security operation. They don't carry anything but pepper spray and radios and a few have saps. Last year a guy walks in with a pump shotgun under a trench coat and quietly robs the pharmacy. He still has not been caught, so there is the potential for a return visit.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 07:13:57 PM »
Here's a riddle for ya.

What do you call a security guard without a gun?






















A target.

It's not funny but if anything ever happens who do you think the BG's are gonna shoot first?
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 07:30:00 PM »
Thanks to the great economy I have been looking for work. And was going to interview for an armored guard position. Talking to one of the guards before my interview. I found out, no training, your on your own legally/financially if you try to defend yourself/partner/public and the new guy has to get out of the truck! Well, turned and walked out. I'll eat roman noodles before I'll give my life/car or future income to parolee and his lawyer!
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 02:09:25 AM »
Here's a riddle for ya.

What do you call a security guard without a gun?




A target.

It's not funny but if anything ever happens who do you think the BG's are gonna shoot first?

We called it the "Pinkerton Alarm System", when the BG shot us at the front desk everyone would hear it and run away. When the Novi MI Ford plant had an active shooter some years ago (mid '90's IIRC) Ford told the security companies they wanted the guards armed, Pinkerton told them they would not, even if it cost them the contract.

As far as Armored cars, me and my partner carried about 6 pistols and 500 rounds between us. When some of our former coworkers robbed our run they waited until I called off work one day (an inside man tipped them off). When the Fed's asked why they waited for me to be off they reportedly said they wanted my partners Desert Eagle, but "we didn't want to mess with BOTH those crazy white-boys". It was not a job I recommend much, and I only made about $7.50 an hour. My dad just retired from Brinks not long ago and he was only making $11 (IIRC) after 10 years. He was also the regional firearms instructor for Brinks, they being one of the few (at least in Metro Detroit) that did any real training. Guardian, where I worked, just made us prove we knew which end was dangerous.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 09:23:24 PM »
I did Armored guard work for 6 years. every state has different rules regarding armed security. in NY you have to go through state mandated training which includes use of deadly force, first aid and range time/qualification. I started out at $8.00/hr and when I left I was the 3rd highest in seniority making $10.00/hr. There was a LOT of turnover in that job. I would not recommend this job to anyone, the hours are long  the pay sucks andthere is a good chance of getting injured/ killed.We were also required to qualify every year and go through a re certification course. We had to supply our own sidearms and carry ammo, company supplied the qualification ammo. We were also told that the side arm was there to protect us, not the money and to give it up as it was insured.
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