Baptist pastor beaten + tazed by Border patrol - 11 stitches

[Hazcat]

This is a VERY disturbing incident.

Here is a link http://www.stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/ to a blog with more videos, including the actual incident.

[2HOW]

It seems you can be stopped and questioned without crossing any borders. you just have to be close to a border. This is not the first report of this .

[tt11758]

He probably falls under the DHS profile, just like we do.

[DesertMarine]

Well guess what, native born Americans of Mexican descent have been undergoing that kind of treatment for years, thruout the Southwest.   

[DesertMarine]

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[Rastus]

Well guess what, native born Americans of Mexican descent have been undergoing that kind of treatment for years, thruout the Southwest.   

Have I misinterpreted your post?  Your statement as it reads is that it's OK for this to happen and is justifed because it has happened to other US citizens that were unjustly treated.   Am I somehow misinterpreting this as a rascist statement when it is not?

This should not happen to any US citizens.

[twyacht]

As I previously posted about how easy it is to have your rights violated, this just confirms it.

I am an American, I have nothing in my car and have done nothing wrong, therefore, the DHS, and/or LEO's (for that area),

decide I am a "problem", for exercising my rights, and the Constitution gets thrown out for "probable cause"... tazed and "booted" on the asphalt.

Granted, I can see this guy kinda being a pain in the ass for a hot tired LEO, but calmer heads prevail. And in this case they did not.

LEO's are used to getting their way, search and seizure, probable cause, ME LAW, YOU NOT mentality, but if I know I'm innocent, I will respectfully tell them so.

OK, I'll watch it again,, Chris Rock, How Not To Get Your Ass Kicked By The Police.........

[DesertMarine]

No, the treatment was not justified.
My post was meant to make a statement as to why this incident is outrageous when this type of events have been happening all the time.  Is it because it is a Bapist Minister?  And yes, they are being committed by local, county, state and federal law enforcement not just border patrol and DPS.  I worked as a civilian employee for a large police department and I saw that type of treatment being committed.  I was trying to go with that PD as an officer but I got an offer for a federal officer job and went there.  Fortunately, my job did not put me in a position where we were put in that type of position.

Where my button gets pushed is like in events like in the NE where a Hispanic boy gets killed by four non-Hispanics by being beaten up in what the police called a hate crime.  The most time any of them will serve is one year.  No outraged citizens complaining about it.

In the news this week, police in LA chase a guy in a vehicle with finally stopping him and he gives up, lies down, spread-eagle, a policeman comes and kicks him in the face, then he and another cop jump on top of him and start to beat him.  No outraged citizens complaining, with one reporter on Fox News saying it was ok but the adreneline was high on the officer.  Also commented that it was ok because the guy was a gang member.

I was traveling out of El Paso into New Mexico a week and a half ago and came to the Border Patrol check station.  They were checking all vehicles with a dog.  I have a crew cab truck and they checked my truck.  I could see the dog handler giving signals to the agent alonside me.  The looks on their faces were not good, almost like conspiring.  Asked me if I had a dog in the truck, which I didn't.  Finally after several minutes, they let me go.  How easily it could have gone differently.  The agents were Hispanic and black.  First time something like this has happened personally, normally they see my Marine Corps license plate in front and wave me thru.  But I have seen how they have treated other people. 

The good part is that for the a-holes that are in law enforcement there are a lot more who are good examples of their profession.

[tombogan03884]

Unfortunately it's the A holes that we see on TV, Whether it's something like this, or the "Mafia Cops" type corruption, or the 2A debate, it's usually the A holes that the media wants to listen to.
Up here we had 2 Police Chiefs, The Chief in Nashua kept crime low, was a Decorated former NH State trooper and a real nice guy, who eventually wound up with an executive position at NRA Headquarters,  The other one, in Portland Me. was a former Philadelphia detective who left the force after he blew the Ira Eichorn, Unicorn killer case, under his administration crime doubled and he violated state and federal law in his hatred of our civil rights.
Can you guess which one was ALWAYS asked about gun control issues ?
Micheal Chitwood was one of those A Holes you mentioned.

[Hazcat]

DM,

Don't go all racial on us ya old desert rat.    His race and occupation had nothing to do with it.  It sure didn't help him.

The reason I posted this and the reason I am outraged is that this is happening more and more and it is also becoming more 'open'.

I want to make sure as many people as possible see this and realize that the guy did nothing wrong.  He stood up for his rights.  We must all stand up like this (I know most if not all here would) but we must make others aware and this is ammo for you when talking to people.