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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 10:39:44 PM »


so its wrong to fire some one that violates company policy?

IMO   company policy's  should also be in line with state laws

if it is legal then why not....
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 10:39:54 PM »


so its wrong to fire some one that violates company policy?

Don't start TAB, You KNOW we are all going to dump on you, especially when, as in this case, the company policy is in direct violation of the law.

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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 10:43:54 PM »
State law?  or *cough* the 2a



there is a huge diffrence from patrons and employees.
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 10:48:29 PM »
n Georgia in 2008, it was illegal to carry or possess a firearm in a restaurant that serves alcohol.  Taco Mac serves alcohol.  The Georgia General Assembly changed the law when it passed HB 89, which contained a provision that repealed the gun ban in restaurants that serve alcohol so long as the patron is not consuming alcohol. HB 89 also contained a provision that the NRA aggressively pushed that prevented employers from banning employee guns from cars in the parking lot.

Didn't you read the post before your relapse of dipshit ?

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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 10:53:22 PM »
The artical says she was on the clock. 

it does not say where the gun came from, rahter it was on thier person or from thier car.( it hints, but does not say)

Either way, your still in violation of policy, not to mention a lawsuit waiting to happen. = your fired.
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2009, 11:08:00 PM »
The artical says she was on the clock. 

it does not say where the gun came from, rahter it was on thier person or from thier car.( it hints, but does not say)

Either way, your still in violation of policy, not to mention a lawsuit waiting to happen. = your fired.

Maybe I should have rephrased the question since its obvious your reading comprehension skills rank right up there with your spelling.
Follow closely TAB. 
The "she" mention4ed in the article, was the person taking out the trash. Also, It was specifically stated as "HE OR SHE".
The "Manager" was a witness who's gender was also not specified. Further, to quote from the article

"Had the manager honored the "gun ban" in TSRG's Taco Mac restaurants, the outcome could have been much worse -- consider the fate of slain bartender John Henderson at the Standard (who complied with his assailant's instructions) in January 2009.

In short, screw their company policy and your adherence to being a defenseless shmoo.

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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 11:15:28 PM »
we have no idea what would have happen. 

Anything you do on the clock, your employer is responsible for.   It sucks, but thats how it works. 

Does not mater if what you were doing is legal  or not.

I've love to change that, but its not going to happen.

Even armed security companys fire you draw your weapon, its SOP.


Trying being a employer some time, it will open your eyes.
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 11:47:50 PM »
so its wrong to fire some one that violates company policy?

If the policy goes against the purity of the right to self defense, then yes. This is the right that the second amendment covers and no company should be able to deny anyone this right, public or private.

In '91, I  worked night crew at a grocery store. When the store closed, we had some obviously drunk gang members push their way threw the doors as we tried to lock up. When asked to leave, they got angry and one pulled a snubby revolver. An emergency call went out over the intercom, and about 15 employees came to the front to aid the rest of us (this was a grand opening store and a payroll wasn't an issue). Luckily no one was shot, the guy packing was smart enough to leave and the police arrested the remainder.

After that incident, the store manager, who was a friend of my dad's, gave us verbal permission to bring guns to work. Even the deli girl had a .357 under her sweater. This was against the company policy. In the morning, the manager would have us come into the office to show-and-tell what we were carrying that day. We never had any other incidents while I was working there.

In June of 2003, this former manager had handed in his keys and was finishing his last few weeks as a union employee to lock in his medical for retirement. My wife works at the same store, but had the day off. A 30-year-old bagger that had abandoned his job a couple of weeks before returned wearing a trenchcoat and beret (JUNE). He haunted around inside the store for a while before pulling out a "samurai sword" and slashing employees and shoppers. The first victim was the non-foods manager, who was also within weeks of retirement. She was beheaded. From the witnesses I talked to, my understanding was that my old manager and friend was stabbed though the lung and died on the floor from that injury. Many others were cut between the 2 killings.

Police response was within a few minutes, but understandably not fast enough for us to put aside our right to defense. 3 officers entered the store. One with an AR-15, which was used to stop the attacker, who died from his gun shot wounds.

This manager, who let us carry, and even on occasion wore a holstered black powder gun (unloaded) as part of a halloween costume, toed the company line and went unarmed. This company policy didn't do him or his family any good. Company policy should not be allowed to deny any right. On the company's side, they also shouldn't be able to be held liable for an individual exercising that right either - which would be especially an issue in California.

While companies can still set policies like this, it's kind of along the same lines as, "better to be judged by 12, then carried out by six." I'd rather get fired and go home to my family, then get killed by a nut and leave my wife to sort out the aftermath.

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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2009, 11:50:47 PM »
Hasn't TAB beat this horse into a bloody pile before?       ::)    ::)


You can keep puttin' the saddle back on it, pal...............but it ain't gonna get up and take you to town.
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Re: Restaurant with anti-gun policy saved by a gun
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2009, 11:52:47 PM »
The US cons protects you against the federal goverment.  The states were added later.  It does not protect you against private enterprize.
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