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fightingquaker13

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 10:01:32 PM »
I would agree with every point on this thread. But I'd like to add one more. The ammo companies are as confused as we are. They don't know if this is a bubble thats going to burst (which I think it is). They also don't know if an AWB will come down the pike, in which case .556 and 7.62x.39, not such a good investment. They CAN produce more as far as material costs, it will just require more hires and more capacity, both high dollar investments. I would expect them to hesitate until they get a sense of where the trend line is going.
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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 10:19:19 PM »
And, one other thing....not to stir a pot, but "we" have tipped our collective 'hand' regarding what we are willing to pay for ammo.
Just like Americans did with gasoline last summer.
We've shown that we are willing to pay the prices (as evidenced by the empty shelves), and while prices MIGHT go down in the future, I wouldn't bet on it being very much.

"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 10:38:32 PM »
We had no choice when it came to gas, Had to go to work, very few people need ammo for work.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 10:59:03 PM »
We had no choice when it came to gas, Had to go to work, very few people need ammo for work.

Agreed...to a point...

Regarding gas, in my area it was 'business as usual' for things 'other than work'. No one tapered their driving habits when gas hit $4.00 a gallon. The local news interviewed people at gas pumps, filling RV's and boats, and they all said they would "just pay what it cost, but they weren't gonna stop having fun". No one was willing to give up a little and draw a line in the sand and only buy what they needed to go to work and such.

I was using the comparison for the sake of supply and demand. It doesn't matter if your talking about ammo or toilet paper. When demand escalates rapidly and overwhelms supply, price usually goes up. Typically, once supply catches up to demand, price drops a little and stabilizes.

I was just saying don't expect prices to drop much because the greedy bastards know what people are willing to pay. If you are willing to pay $40.00 for a box of cartridges when there is only one box on the shelf, the why would you not pay it if there were twenty boxes on the shelf?

I hope I'm wrong and prices drop in the future.
"I expect perdition, I always have. I keep this building at my back, and several guns handy, in case perdition arrives in a form that's susceptible to bullets. I expect it will come in the disease form, though. I'm susceptible to diseases, and you can't shoot a damned disease." ~ Judge Roy Bean, Streets of Laredo

For the Patriots of this country, the Constitution is second only to the Bible for most. For those who love this country, but do not share my personal beliefs, it is their Bible. To them nothing comes before the Constitution of these United States of America. For this we are all labeled potential terrorists. ~ Dean Garrison

"When it comes to the enemy, just because they ain't pullin' a trigger, doesn't mean they ain't totin' ammo for those that are."~PegLeg

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 11:00:11 PM »
We had no choice when it came to gas, Had to go to work, very few people need ammo for work.
I'm hoping you're right, which is why I'm betting on the bubble theory. I think a lot of folks got scared into a "now or never" mindset and bought guns that they wouldn't have otherwise and a thousand rounds to go with. Some of these folks are going to shoot them and like it, and keep on doing so. That's a good thing. A lot of others though, are going to put them in the back of the clost and leave them there. Like wise, I don't keep a lot of ammo on hand, except for bird shot. My range is house ammo only, so except for SD loads and hunting loads, its wasted money for me. I'm half tempted to stock up, but losing a job tells me I have better use for 3 bills then buying a thousand rounds of 9 mil I'll never get to shoot. Others, who had the cash wil chill out also. I do think Peg was onto to something though, when he said ammo companies have seen how much we WILL pay. I think the days of $0.15 .763x39 are long gone.
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Re: My Ammo complaint
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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2009, 11:04:45 PM »
I know it stoped me from going to lake alot last year.  21 gallon tank x $5.50/ gallon for 91 octane... It made it atleast $150 to get in and fuel.   Not to mention the fact that my truck gets 10 mpg, where 90% of my biz is 27 miles from my home... yeah, I had extra money to spend...
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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 11:13:14 PM »
We noticed it here in the lakes region as well, the Massholes were not so thick on the ground.

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 11:17:08 PM »
Where the gas prices hurt, was in goods.  Everything that had to be shiped went up.  Food was the one that hurt everyone.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: My Ammo complaint
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2009, 11:19:05 PM »
From what I have heard, the prices from the manufactures have increased, but not by the amount we see at the counter, when we can actually buy, The manufacturers are running 2-3 shifts, but are not going to invest in expanding, they have been here before, not like this, but very close to it in 1994, it will decline eventually, depending on how many more gaffs the the administration puts out, 1 word about new regulations, starts it all over again.

The other thing, is there is no more SURPLUS,  ammo, the thing that has kept us going for many, many years, it is dried up, and unless other countries let loose, and no executive order comes down, we might see some filter through. I did read about a major player cutting a deal with somebody for a large importation of ammo, I hope it is Privi Partisan, the czechs make good stuff.

I have a friend that has a mini-gun, and he has the money but cannot feed it, but he has 3 vickers belt feds in 8mm mauser, he bought 19 pallets of it. Smart as he got it at surplus price, but he personally hit us all, who have these rifles.
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