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Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« on: May 19, 2009, 08:41:55 PM »
I'm trying to decide if the match chamber is just more sensitive than a standard chamber, or maybe I have reload problems?
Thanks

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 09:34:19 PM »
what is happening?


Failure to feed, failure to go into battery.... etc.




Comm'l reloads or home reloads?


99x out of 100  failures with reloads are cuased by reloads.

Could be something like to long of a OAL,  bluging the case when your crimp,  not sizing all th eway... etc.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 09:35:18 PM »
Do you double check all your finished loads?  I have found that if I check everyone I cull some, and if I try to shoot the culls I have a lot of issues.  However, once the culls are removed from the batch my reloads are every bit as reliable as factory or the gun they are used in.

Just my question and 2 cents.  Good luck!
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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 10:12:49 PM »
I will take a stab at it.  I have the XD9, and it has a short throat (mine does anyway) similar to CZ's.  Depending on what bullets you are using and their profile, you may have to seat them just a tad deeper than you would in others.  Since the XDm's are supposed to be match chambers, I would suspect that this is still the case.  When this happens they won't go all the way into battery, and I have even had the bullets 'stick' when I extract the case and get powder all over the place.  In these cases I use the barrel removed from the pistol as a case length gauge.  You should still be using a case gauge as it is, but it really does not measure the ogive.

Of course you may be having other issues. :)

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 11:27:19 PM »
The gun fails to go into battery.  Further, the cartridge/barrel become stuck, and I must tap the cartridge out of the barrel with a rod put in through the muzzle of the barrel as I pull the slide back.  Takes two people to do this.  I am sizing with a carbide die, seating the bullet first then taper crimping as separate operations.  I have not done the case gage thing, so maybe that would tell me something.  I have two identical XDM's.  My wife's is the one were having the most trouble with.

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 11:31:20 PM »
Like Bidah said, your rounds are to long and they are being pushed beyond the chamber and into the rifling.
It takes 2 people ? Doesn't it have a slide lock ?

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 11:37:38 PM »
are you doing a full size?  just becuase the die touchs the shell holder, it does not mean your doing a full size.  You could calso be over crimping.  Both are very common.

Try this, take both guns barrels out.  take a round and drop it in the chamber, now do the same with a factory load.

If  factory ammo works and the reload does not its the reload.  if the factory ammo  does not go, its the chamber.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 11:51:39 PM »
My brother has a both a 357sig and 9mm XD that are ported.
His experience is that neither gun can shoot HP with any accuracy.
FMJ or ball is dead on but HP or JHP seem to go anywhere they want too
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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 12:13:44 AM »
The slide lock is not the issue.  The ejector is engaged with the rim of the case, it is not in full battery, it is not in the rear location.  It is stuck midway.  The extractor will not let loose. 

I am full length sizing, but when I seat and crimp, I do not perform any final "sizing" operation.  I guess I need to use a final sizing die after loading is complete?  When I drop a case into the chamber of the barrel removed from the gun, a factory round clearly seates on the rim of the case like its supposed to, my reloads seem to stop short of the rim.

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Re: Anyone having trouble with reloads in XDM9?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 12:29:22 AM »
are you doing a full size?  just becuase the die touchs the shell holder, it does not mean your doing a full size.  You could calso be over crimping.  Both are very common.

Try this, take both guns barrels out.  take a round and drop it in the chamber, now do the same with a factory load.

If  factory ammo works and the reload does not its the reload.  if the factory ammo  does not go, its the chamber.


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The slide lock is not the issue.  The ejector is engaged with the rim of the case, it is not in full battery, it is not in the rear location.  It is stuck midway.  The extractor will not let loose. 

I am full length sizing, but when I seat and crimp, I do not perform any final "sizing" operation.  I guess I need to use a final sizing die after loading is complete?  When I drop a case into the chamber of the barrel removed from the gun, a factory round clearly seates on the rim of the case like its supposed to, my reloads seem to stop short of the rim.

TAB is on the right track here, something is probably not right with your sizing operation and/or crimp.
I don't know, but you may be crimping too much and deforming the case just enough not to chamber fully.
Will an empty, re-sized casing drop into the chamber?
If so, try one that has a bullet seated to the correct depth, but NOT crimped.
If it will, then you know it might the crimp.

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