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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 10:36:08 AM »
Thanks to all for the replies.  I am convinced that a true accidental dischange with my Glock is extremely unlikely, I'm probably more likely to get killed by lightning, but it seems that hard statistics on this just aren't available.  The events may be so rare that meaningful stats just can't be gathered.

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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 04:04:35 PM »
Fundamental rule of booger hook OFF bang switch, till needed, applies.


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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 07:06:37 PM »
last year there was a poll/thread on THR ( the high road) more then 50 % of the people  that actually took the poll admited to have a ND( or AD as many like to call them)   
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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 07:50:00 PM »
plus guns carried in large numbers by LE agencies -- i.e. Glock, Sig etc -- are going to have many more NDs simply because they make up a much greater percentage of the sample.
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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 10:22:45 PM »
plus guns carried in large numbers by LE agencies -- i.e. Glock, Sig etc -- are going to have many more NDs simply because they make up a much greater percentage of the sample.

Also, guns carried by an organization will have AD/ND more likely to be documented where if a private person screws up if no injuries they are more likely to just say"damn, won't do THAT again". and go about their business.

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Re: AD statistics
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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 11:27:23 PM »
I suppose some of it depends on how you define AD vs ND. To use the unfortunate example of the guy who got shot carrying Mexican, we can define that as ND. On the other hand, if he had just tripped and dropped the gun, probably AD. Its one of the good features of the Glock you mentioned (along with many other guns) that they are mechanically incapable of accidental discharge as long as you, quoting Tom "keep your bugger hook off the bang switch". There are exceptions in some weapons though. I love my old 3 screw Blackhawk, but it is simply unsafe to carry with a round under the hammer because it can go off if dropped. I still own it, but I either fire all five, or rotate the cylinder to put it back over an empty one. The same was true of my old .44mag model 94. If you load with pointed bullets, and slam it down butt first, bad things can happen. You need to know this stuff before buying/operating a weapon. If you don't own a gun and are worried, I would reccomend the Glock as there is only one thing to worry about and that is to keep your finger off the trigger. Reassure your wife of its safety by reminding her of how many PDs issue it. One of their criteria is making it both idiot proof, and being safe if a cop falls and drops it durig a chase.
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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 11:46:36 PM »
its very simple  ADs are when you have a gun or "gear" malfunction.( gear malfuctions are iffy)

Every thing else is a ND.

just about all NDs are from having your trigger on the finger... Droping a gun and having it go bang  is a ND...

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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 12:13:19 AM »
its very simple  ADs are when you have a gun or "gear" malfunction.( gear malfuctions are iffy)

Every thing else is a ND.

just about all NDs are from having your trigger on the finger... Droping a gun and having it go bang  is a ND...



Accidental Discharge, like TAB says, is an equipment Malfunction, that's an unpreventable act of God.
A NEGLIGENT discharge means you messed up, either got your finger in the trigger or allowed some other object to contact the trigger, ALL ND's are preventable through proper safety procedures.

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Re: AD statistics
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 01:12:32 AM »
This video makes it very clear what a negligent discharge is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PYHR72u51Q

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