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The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« on: June 03, 2009, 06:11:53 AM »
June 02, 2009 6:58 PM

ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report: The other day we heard a comment from a White House aide that never would have been uttered during the primaries or general election campaign.

During a conference call in preparation for President Obama's trip to Cairo, Egypt, where he will address the Muslim world, deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Denis McDonough said "the President himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to -- or before he's been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world -- you know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father -- obviously Muslim Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago."

Given widespread unease and prejudice against Muslims among Americans, especially in the wake of 9/11, the Obama campaign was perhaps understandably very sensitive during the primaries and general election to downplay the candidate's Muslim roots.

The candidate was even offended when referred to by his initials "BHO," because he considered the use of his middle name, "Hussein," an attempt to frighten voters.

With insane rumors suggesting he was some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate, then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his campaign did everything they could to emphasize his Christianity and de-emphasize the fact that his father, Barack Obama Sr., was born Muslim.

The candidate's comment at a Boca Raton, Florida, town hall meeting on May 22, 2008, was typical: "My father was basically agnostic, as far as I can tell, and I didn't know him," he said.

In September 2008, candidate Obama told a Pennsylvania crowd, "I know that I'm not your typical presidential candidate and I just want to be honest with you. I know that the temptation is to say, 'You know what? The guy hasn't been there that long in Washington. You know, he's got a funny name. You know, we're not sure about him.' And that's what the Republicans when they say this isn't about issues, it's about personalities, what they're really saying is, 'We're going to try to scare people about Barack. So we're going to say that, you know, maybe he's got Muslim connections.'...Just making stuff up."

Back then, the campaign's "Fight the Smears" website addressed the candidate's faith without mentioning his father's religion:

"Barack Obama is a committed Christian. He was sworn into the Senate on his family Bible. He has regularly attended church with his wife and daughters for years. But shameful, shadowy attackers have been lying about Barack’s religion, claiming he is a Muslim instead of a committed Christian. When people fabricate stories about someone’s faith to denigrate them politically, that’s an attack on people of all faiths. Make sure everyone you know is aware of this deception."

The website also provided quotes from the Boston Globe and Newsweek mentioning his father's roots.

Since the election, however, with the threat of the rumors at least somewhat abated, the White House has been increasingly forthcoming about the president's roots. Especially when reaching out to the
Muslim world.

In his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament, President Obama referenced how many "Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country. I know, because I am one of them."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/abc-news-jake-tapper-and-sunlen-miller-report-the-other-day-we-heard-a-comment-from-a-white-house-aide-that-neverwould-have.html

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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 06:34:48 AM »
I am so at ease now.
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 07:22:09 AM »
Haz,

You are in full form this morning!

I had such a good day yesterday - New rear tire on the bike (painful, but an hour of drooling over new bikes in the showroom), 250 miles on said bike on beautiful winding roads ... at least until the sun went down and the mercury plummeted, and four great stages of challenging shooting - even the classifier was a fun and busy stage (easy street for you IPSC shooters).

Now this morning the cat is posting one issue right after another.  All real world things we need to know and act on, but what a way to start the day after ... Kinda like getting the little blue pill to work and then 15 seconds later lighting the cigarette  :-\  ooooops ... headed for corner time  :-[

Seriously, and giving you all a chance to get back on topic, Thanks for the heads up on many issues Haz!  You provide the radar blips we all need to see.  Thanks!
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 11:48:43 AM »
Domestic Terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He admits it himself - take action now!!
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 09:11:15 PM »
Ok.. I really am deep in thought over this. I have spent the last 2 hours literally pouring over research trying to find out more on this.
 I got this email... from a very respected friend..
 here it is:

Michelle Obama trip.......Interesting information!....It explains a lot!

 I was at Blockbusters on Saturday renting videos; I was
 going along the wall, and here was a video called "Obama".
 I told the men next to me that I wouldn't waste my time.  We
 started talking about Obama.

 These guys were Arabs, and I asked them why they thought
 Michele Obama headed home following her visit in France
 instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her
 husband.

 They said she couldn't go to Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Iraq.

 I said "Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Dubai."

 They answered, "Obama is a Muslim, and by Muslim law, he
 would not be allowed to bring his wife into the countries
 that accept Sharia Law."

 Just thought it was interesting that the Arabs at
 Blockbuster's accept the idea that we're being led by a
 Muslim who follows the Islamic creed.  They also said that's
 the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia.  It was a
 signal to the Muslim world.

 Just thought you would like to know.

 Odd, I thought HE SAID he was a Christian.  Now he wouldn't
 lie to us would he?


Lots of questions and information adding are popping up in my head...

""The grand mufti of Egypt has invited US President Barack Obama to address Muslims around the globe from Egypt’s Al Azhar mosque – one of the most important mosques in the Muslim world. It is highly unusual for a non-Muslim to speak at the mosque, according to World Net Daily news website, and an Egyptian official it contacted could not think of any non-Muslim world leader who had previously received an invitation""

When did Muslim’s start allowing ‘Christians’ to enter and give speeches in their mosques?
My own conclusion is....In keeping with tradition ....I guess they are not inviting a non Muslim.

Mrs. Obama did skip Turkey last month when the Obamas were on their European tour. She said she chose to return to her children instead of accompanying her husband to Ankara and Istanbul.

0bama has not traveled with his wife to any Muslim country, and that no official Muslim leader ever travels with his wife.
Past presidents have gone with all  their wives, but they have all been “Christian,” which means they are already understood to not follow the Muslim way.

If true, then this shows one of two things. First, that 0bama respects the Muslim tradition enough to not bring his wife along. The second, that 0bama really is a Muslim and is only doing what is right for a Muslim.
It also ties in with his deep bow to the Saudi prince a month ago...

Not one place actually has an answer to this...
except.. dear old snopes .. who I do not trust all the time.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/sharia.asp
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 09:20:47 PM »
M'lette, leaving the whole "he's a secret muslim" thing aside, there is nothing that prohibits a man from traveling with his wife in Sharia. Its only women who can't travel without a male relative. I think that by applying Occams razor, we can explain Michelles absence by A not wanting to go to the middle east in the summer. B not wanting to suffer the sexism that she'd have to put up with there at any time of the year and C the fact she's got two small kids at home. I'm just saying.
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 10:21:27 PM »
Remember, Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels.
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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 10:24:40 PM »
Knee jerk reactions :
Blame Bush,
Defend BO

I suggest some Right Guard.

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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 10:26:12 PM »
Remember, Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels.

Liberal Rant ON:
Gosh Runny, you don't really believe that, do you?  We are all really just alike....how can you say that?  You might be a RWE.  That isn't true, I wasn't raised that way and they weren't either....because I say so.
Liberal Rant OFF.

Liberals don't make any sense, do they?


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Re: The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 10:31:47 PM »
Our book says "Thou shall not bear false witness" theirs says "You will not be friends with a jew or a Christian unless you are setting them up for the kill" And don't forget to beat your wives !

 

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