Striped lower "worth" question.

[Bidah]

They are going for $135 around here, which is about $15 more than before the craziness.

-Bidah

[TAB]

They are going for $135 around here, which is about $15 more than before the craziness.

-Bidah

saw one in a shop last week for $399.

[Rastus]

still have to go thru a FFL as its interstate. 

Not on a face to face private transfer, which is what I meant...unless you are an FFL holder in which case you always have to fill out paperwork.  Now, California may force this by their law...but it does not apply not in the land of free peoples over here in the Mississippi River watershed. 

[blackwolfe]

Not on a face to face private transfer, which is what I meant...unless you are an FFL holder in which case you always have to fill out paperwork.  Now, California may force this by their law...but it does not apply not in the land of free peoples over here in the Mississippi River watershed. 

Rastus, Not trying to be argumentive, but I think interstate private sales even face to face are a no no per federal law.  Some states may also have state laws prohibiting such sales.

[Rastus]

Rastus, Not trying to be argumentive, but I think interstate private sales even face to face are a no no per federal law.  Some states may also have state laws prohibiting such sales.

Oops, ya'll are right and I am wrong.  Here ya' go:

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=60

Sales Between Individuals

An individual who does not possess a federal firearms license may not sell a firearm to a resident of another state without first transferring the firearm to a dealer in the purchaser`s state. Firearms received by bequest or intestate succession are exempt from those sections of the law which forbid the transfer, sale, delivery or transportation of firearms into a state other than the transferor`s state of residence.

Also, depending on which one you have you can see the going price from Aimsurplus:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Receivers.html

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[Pathfinder]

We need to get those damn laws changed . . . . 

Just saying.

[fightingquaker13]

We need to get those damn laws changed . . . . 

Just saying.

Be careful there Path. Yes it would be nice to have a nice uniform rule, but..........The way it is now allows a great deal of state autonomy in private sales. Great if you're in No. Dak. or Tx., not so good if you're in Mass. BUT, if we go to a federal standard, do you really think the least restrictive rules will apply? Its not just a question of Dem vs GOP either. All sorts of federal agencies like ATF, FBI, DEA, Homeland ("expert" witnesses all of them), all of whom have a vested bureacratic interest, and a hundred "good" reasons, will want to stick their noses in regardless of admin. This seems like a case where letting sleepig dogs lie is a good idea on the federal level. The work should be done on the state level. First we make sure Heller is incorporated and then go after this stuff. Nationalizing the 2A is the main priority right now.
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[Pathfinder]

Be careful there Path. Yes it would be nice to have a nice uniform rule, but..........The way it is now allows a great deal of state autonomy in private sales. Great if you're in No. Dak. or Tx., not so good if you're in Mass. BUT, if we go to a federal standard, do you really think the least restrictive rules will apply? Its not just a question of Dem vs GOP either. All sorts of federal agencies like ATF, FBI, DEA, Homeland ("expert" witnesses all of them), all of whom have a vested bureacratic interest, and a hundred "good" reasons, will want to stick their noses in regardless of admin. This seems like a case where letting sleepig dogs lie is a good idea on the federal level. The work should be done on the state level. First we make sure Heller is incorporated and then go after this stuff. Nationalizing the 2A is the main priority right now.
FQ13

I don't normally say this, but FQ, you're a dumbass!

It is the freakin' Federal law that prevents Tab from coming to ND and hand delivering my lower in a private sale! Not state laws, but Federal!! . It is those that I would see changed, not impose yet another Federal standard.

[fightingquaker13]

I don't normally say this, but FQ, you're a dumbass!

It is the freakin' Federal law that prevents Tab from coming to ND and hand delivering my lower in a private sale! Not state laws, but Federal!! . It is those that I would see changed, not impose yet another Federal standard.

Actually Path, you're right (not about the dumbass thing). My point is just that if we revisit federal law in regards to individual transfer I think the odds  are good that it would serve to tighten intra-state laws. For instance, in TX. you can legally sell by mail to another individual. Do think any fed law enforcement agency is happy about this? Think of the extra funding they're losing. Likewise a lot of FFL holders now don't like doing transfers from non-ffl holders. Don't you think some TX. FFL dealers would point out the "threat to public safety" just so they could get their $25-50 transfer fees? I merely pointed out that once you open the box to further federal review, it might very well be a case of be careful what you wish for. If this makes me a dumbass please do explain.
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[Timothy]

While I don't want to get into this discussion, don't condemn all of the law in Massachusetts unless you understand them. 

I can legally transfer up to four firearms annually to a private citizen, including the AR lowers.  I can buy as many handguns, rifles and shotguns every day of the year as long as they're on the list, there are no restrictions on quantity or any waiting period.  No, I can't buy ammunition through mail order but I can buy as much as I want from CT, NH, RI, ME, and any other state that surrounds me with the possible exception of NY.  Considering I can be in all of those states in about an hour, it's not so bad. 

I was able to drive through CT with my long guns and just fill out a registration form to notify the state within seven days.  The laws here are different, some might think they are pretty restrictive.  I've heard of worse places with waiting periods and from a conversation with my buddy in MI last night, I find it's easier to get a CCW in MA than it is in MI these days.

No it ain't TX or FL but it's far better than CA and NJ, NY, PA, and any number of states that don't allow CCW at all.

Now, back to your argument fellas, by the way.....I could buy those lowers from TAB through an FFL, even in MA.  It's not the lower that they have a problem with here, it's the evil suppressor, the evil collapsable stock and the evil bayonet mount...everything else is kosher.........