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tombogan03884

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Re: C O M W E C
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2009, 11:35:26 PM »
The things that Killed  the Roman Empire were;
1) Debasement of the currency to pay for hand outs and cheap entertainment for the masses in order to buy favor, and to pay Mercenaries to defend what Romans were to lazy to defend themselves. It was NOT the use of Mercenaries per se that was bad, in the earlier days of the Empire the use of locally recruited auxiliaries was a GREAT benefit to the ROMAN Legions as a source of additional manpower and local knowledge, as well as supplying skills the Romans themselves lacked, such as Calvary, and Archery. When it became a problem was when the Legions contained so many Huns and Gauls that Orders could no longer be given in Latin, a situation that led to:
2) Uncontrolled immigration of "Uncivilized" tribesmen into Roman territory overloaded the system , added to the tax burden, and led to social disruptions.
3) The root causes of these were twofold , The major cause was Senators who promised the mob the earth and sky because they were more interested in being re elected than in the good of the state and were willing to go along with the other cause, crazy Emperors like Nero or Caligula, Rome would not have lasted as long as it did without the intervention of Generals like Hadrian and Trajan who were able , to some degree, to lessen the effects of their crazed predecessors, but in the end were unable to overcome the damage done by the self serving politicians.

Now lets look at at the Ottoman Empire;
The root of their fall is easy to see, it was an oligarchy intent on enriching the privileged few at the expense of the majority of the population. After centuries of draining the financial resources of the lands they controlled the infrastructure of irrigation ditches, schools hospitals, and transportation systems was devastated, and the population reduced to poverty. the only representatives of govt they encountered were tax collectors and troops if tax revenues were not sufficient to finance the lavish and  hedonistic lifestyles of the ruling class. The only way they stayed in power as long as they did was by dividing the people against each other in a continuous series of feuds between tribes and clans, they were aided by having the early Zionists come to Palestine and act as a diversion for the frustrations of the people. But at the first serious threat, the invasions by England during WW I, the Tribes were forced to pick a side and the house of cards collapsed. The after effects of this reverberate to our own time because the British Govt. chose to cater to the lazy, devious, primitive Arabs instead of honoring their commitments to the honest, industrious, prosperous Jewish community.

Now lets look at the British Empire;
 The cause of the collapse of the British Empire is, on the surface, more clear cut. The rise of nationalistic fervor among the colonial states in the interwar period. That could have been resisted had England not incurred such staggering debt during WW II, this debt meant that in the post war years, when nationalist groups renewed their demands for Independence the English Govt had the choices of either facing a continuation of fighting little colonial war with their expense in lives and finance, instituting an interim Govt. to train natives in self govt, another costly option or just walk away from the whole mess.
Under the rule of the post war Liberal Party they chose to just walk away and let the "Wogs", "Gyppo's", and "Kaffirs" be damned. Which they have been ever since, with the exceptions of Australia and Canada, and Hong Kong, all have suffered war, massacre, poverty and mismanagement to varying degrees that continues to this day. The English did not get off as easily as they expected however as the thriving pre war economy has, with the loss of markets and resources become a welfare state where the unemployment rate hovers around 50% and living on "the dole" is common.

The common thread running through all of them is self serving politicians who put their personal power, either votes or money, before the good of the state therefore refusing to make beneficial but unpopular decisions, the primary one being that the people had to be made to get off their asses and work, but be allowed to keep the benefits of their labor.

And that brings us to where we are now, we have self serving politicians who never get out of campaign mode,refusing to enforce our immigration laws, debasing our currency,  and taxing the producing segment of society out of existence, in order to create and cater to a welfare class that will continue to return them to office as the option is to actually take responsibility for their OWN survival, something they lack the ambition, breeding, or incentive to attempt.


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Re: C O M W E C
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 05:24:12 PM »


The common thread running through all of them is self serving politicians who put their personal power, either votes or money, before the good of the state therefore refusing to make beneficial but unpopular decisions, the primary one being that the people had to be made to get off their asses and work, but be allowed to keep the benefits of their labor.

And that brings us to where we are now, we have self serving politicians who never get out of campaign mode,refusing to enforce our immigration laws, debasing our currency,  and taxing the producing segment of society out of existence, in order to create and cater to a welfare class that will continue to return them to office as the option is to actually take responsibility for their OWN survival, something they lack the ambition, breeding, or incentive to attempt.


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I appreciate the info Tom. My comment is that self serving politicians, are voted in by ignorant and greedy voters, it takes two to tango. People with integrity would choose to not be bought off.
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tombogan03884

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Re: C O M W E C
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 06:27:34 PM »

I appreciate the info Tom. My comment is that self serving politicians, are voted in by ignorant and greedy voters, it takes two to tango. People with integrity would choose to not be bought off.


 Ignorance and greed are bred by the propaganda of the "entitlement" politicians advertising for paid voters. Just like Used car ads where you hear " HEY, Come to Jolly Johns Used Car and we'll beat any deal !" The "social entitlement politicians" are campaigning on a platform of "HEY, vote for us and we'll give you free sh!t you don't have to work for !".


 

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