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Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« on: June 10, 2009, 02:53:43 PM »
Officer Tasers woman, 72, during traffic stop
Published - Jun 10 2009 01:59AM EDT


Dashcam video from the Travis County Precinct 3 Constable's Office in Texas shows a deputy stopping a 72-year-old woman for speeding. She refuses to sign the ticket and a confrontation follows.
She dared a deputy constable to shock her with a Taser.

So, he did.

Video released by a Travis County Constable's Office shows Deputy Chris Bieze confronting 72-year-old Kathryn Winkfein after stopping her for speeding on May 11 just outside Austin.

Video from a camera mounted in the deputy's car shows Winkfein cursing and challenging the deputy and even daring him to use the Taser on her.

"You're going to shove me? You're going to shove a 72-year-old woman?" she yelled.

Winkfein told KTBC-TV in Austin that she did nothing to provoke the use of the Taser.

But Precinct 3 Sgt. Maj. Gary Griffin said Bieze used the Taser only after Winkfein became combative.

There was no immediate comment from Winkfein on Wednesday. A call to her home was answered by a fax machine.

http://www.rr.com/news/news/article/9009/8007277/Officer_Tasers_woman_72_during_traffic_stop

VIDEO HERE

http://video.rr.com/?v=InT1TL4io3HbreglqLzG6xHnH655QFHD
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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2009, 03:03:31 PM »
I saw that this morning on the Today show.  She's a fiesty lady and if she'd kept her mouth shut and signed the ticket, she probably would have been left alone.

Tough call, she was definatly being a little argumentative.

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2009, 04:26:59 PM »
In answer to the question posed by the title of the thread..................

Probably not, but I giggled like a little girl when HE did.  ;D
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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2009, 05:33:18 PM »
YES!  I think she got what was comin' to her!

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2009, 05:43:05 PM »
I saw that this morning on the Today show.  She's a fiesty lady and if she'd kept her mouth shut and signed the ticket, she probably would have been left alone.

Tough call, she was definatly being a little argumentative.

You can't assault someone for not signing a ticket.  Those taser are used horribly sometimes.  Imagine if that LEO reached out and clocked her in the face for not signing.  Good God. >:(  She assaulted that LEO with her 'I'm not signing this' attitude, so hurting her was the proper response?

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 05:43:21 PM »
Sorry, thug with a badge - no call for him to shove her, that alone is an assault charge. After taking the Citizen Academy program here, there are 100 different ways he could have played this. His ego got the best of him, and although he will walk away unscathed, he will be working for another Dept. in a year or 2 at the outside. Especially since this video has gone viral.
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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2009, 06:26:34 PM »
You can't assault someone for not signing a ticket.  Those taser are used horribly sometimes.  Imagine if that LEO reached out and clocked her in the face for not signing.  Good God. >:(  She assaulted that LEO with her 'I'm not signing this' attitude, so hurting her was the proper response?

If you read what I said Kid, I didn't say one way or the other if tasing the woman was justified.  I wasn't there, I can't make that call.

I've been around a bit longer and regardless of the circumstances, I'm a "Yes Sir", "No Sir" kind of guy when it comes to LEO's.  It does not pay to argue because even if you ARE innocent, the LEO on scene doesn't care in most cases.  All I suggest is that you look at both sides of the equation.

I've gotten a pass on several instances because I treat people with a simple modicum of respect, especially those that are clearly armed and trying to do their jobs.  I was pulled over in Detroit one time with the press of a S&W barrel in the back of my head BEFORE he respectfully asked for my license and registration.  One never knows how bad a day the LEO had before he stopped you.

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 06:31:59 PM »
When i first read the topic I thought it said "Would you have tasted this 72 yr old woman?"  My first reaction was "Eewww," but after seeing the video, I'm not so sure.  I likes 'em fiesty!

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 06:34:36 PM »
When i first read the topic I thought it said "Would you have tasted this 72 yr old woman?"  My first reaction was "Eewww," but after seeing the video, I'm not so sure.  I likes 'em fiesty!

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Re: Would you have tased this 72 yr old woman?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 06:38:01 PM »
When watching the vid, you can see it has been edited - it's jumpy and the time stamp skips. Wonder if what was edited out was good for the woman or the officer?
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