Author Topic: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap  (Read 6120 times)

Timothy

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 12:35:18 PM »
AND YOU TRUST THEM TO KEEP THOSE FILES CONFIDENTIAL???? ???

I still have the letters informing me of my Veteran and Military records getting hacked.  I'm all for electronics when it saves time and money but my medical records are rather lengthy and none of anyones business.

The Government cannot be responsible to keep things private.  The only way two Government employees could keep a secret is if you shot one of 'em!

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 12:44:19 PM »
I still have the letters informing me of my Veteran and Military records getting hacked.  I'm all for electronics when it saves time and money but my medical records are rather lengthy and none of anyones business.

The Government cannot be responsible to keep things private.  The only way two Government employees could keep a secret is if you shot one of 'em!
Only one? Ms. Plame, and a host of others, would beg to differ. As a previous poster said, this could lead to mischief. Taken a prozac? No gun. Been to rehab for alchohol, no matter how many years ago? No gun. Complain about stress? No gun. A smoker or had VD, prone to poor judgement. No gun. A priest, a doctor and a lawyer, you shouldn't have to worry about Uncle Sam eaves dropping. Its not the case with MDs now, insurance companies have required Docs to make their records available so they can only insure young healthy folks. Let the government in and it will get worse.
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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 01:56:29 PM »
I do agree with one part of his plan...

 going from a paper system to a electronic one for medical records...

What happens when some one "loses" a lap top, or the economic collapse causes power plants to shut down for lack of fuel ? No power, no records. Yes Hospitals have back up generators, but how long will they run with no more fuel coming in ? Paper is good.

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 01:57:51 PM »
I still have the letters informing me of my Veteran and Military records getting hacked.  I'm all for electronics when it saves time and money but my medical records are rather lengthy and none of anyones business.

The Government cannot be responsible to keep things private.  The only way two Government employees could keep a secret is if you shot one of 'em!

What ever happened with that Class action law suit any way ? PM me if you want.

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2009, 02:01:00 PM »

Yea! Sounds great in theory...till the feds start looking into your medical records to determine if you have ANY health or mental concerns that might prohibit you (in there eyes) from owning a gun. It will be done under the guise of "public safety" but it's just another back door gun grab.

Still don't believe me? Ok try this: The most liberal and anti gun media outlet is NBC / MSNBC. These media outlets are owned by General Electric...Ok so what right? Here's the kicker. Jeffery Immelt owns GE. He's a BIG buddy of BHO, not to mention an anti gun nut. General Electric is the company that is poised to accept the (no bid) contract to make all of these medical records digital.


AND YOU TRUST THEM TO KEEP THOSE FILES CONFIDENTIAL???? ???

Don't need to grab the guns - just deny care. You will either give them up willingly or die in the meantime.

These people think in terms of years and decades, not months.
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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 02:03:11 PM »
I'm remined of a Groucho Marx saying: "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies."
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies." (Groucho Marx)

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 02:03:47 PM »
Don't need to grab the guns - just deny care. You will either give them up willingly or die in the meantime.

These people think in terms of years and decades, not months.

Maybe they do, but I've been thinking in terms of ropes and trees.    ::)

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 03:52:21 PM »
What happens when some one "loses" a lap top, or the economic collapse causes power plants to shut down for lack of fuel ? No power, no records. Yes Hospitals have back up generators, but how long will they run with no more fuel coming in ? Paper is good.

they lose paper records all the time... no real diffrence.  Mine were sent out as a child by mistake. 

Medical records can be life or death.  take my niece for example, she is deathly algeric to opiates.  if she is in a car wreck and they give her one, they would litterly only have about 30 seconds before she dead, there is nothing they could do to save her.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 04:30:05 PM »
   " Mine were sent out as a child by mistake."

I've thought you kind of childish on occasion, I can see how that would happen  ;D

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Re: Are you buying into this Socialized Medicine Crap
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 05:54:30 PM »

Yea! Sounds great in theory...till the feds start looking into your medical records to determine if you have ANY health or mental concerns that might prohibit you (in there eyes) from owning a gun. It will be done under the guise of "public safety" but it's just another back door gun grab.

Still don't believe me? Ok try this: The most liberal and anti gun media outlet is NBC / MSNBC. These media outlets are owned by General Electric...Ok so what right? Here's the kicker. Jeffery Immelt owns GE. He's a BIG buddy of BHO, not to mention an anti gun nut. General Electric is the company that is poised to accept the (no bid) contract to make all of these medical records digital.


AND YOU TRUST THEM TO KEEP THOSE FILES CONFIDENTIAL???? ???
First to answer the question. Not no but HE.................LL no. Regarding confidentiality, I was in Healthcare my entire career before I retired last year. Records (especially electronic records) are kept confidential by law (HIPPA). HIPPA violations will result in immediate termination for individuals that disclose private health information and in big fines to the hospital, clinic or docs office. The fines are per instance, so if electronic records are leaked, it could be thousands of individual records and the fines for each instance would shut down the most profitable hospital. HIPPA is serious stuff. Healthcare workers get fired and usually lose their licenses and a major medical records breach would doom most hospitals.

Jeff Immelt is the CEO of General Electric, not the owner. I first met him when he was the CEO of GEMS (General Electric Medical Systems) before he took over for Jack Welch as CEO for all of GE. His dealings with BHO are very scary. Fortunately many hospitals already have Electronic Medical Records (EMRs) and they have CT, MRI, X-Ray images and other medical imaging on PACS (Picture Archive and Communications Systems). So far GE has not been a major player. Their PACS is not very good and their information systems, that have to be integrated for EMR are pretty weak as well. That has left them with a modest market share. Thus far none of BHOs proposals include actually taking over hospitals. He would have to do that to change all EMRs and PACS to GE. GE does provide the lion's share of PACS to the military.  They purchased Loral under Jack Welch and Loral had the PACS contract with the military at that time. The Loral system was pretty good before GE loused it up,
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