Minn. lawmaker vows not to complete Census

[tombogan03884]

Be careful what you wish for tt. As any good anti will remind you, you are far more likely to be the victim of a gunshot wound (with all attendant costs) if you own a gun than if you don't. Should you be required to have a personal injury protection policy to cover me from paying for you, just like with owning a car? Sarah Brady would say yes.
FQ13

To bad the statistics say that's bullshit.

[fightingquaker13]

To bad the statistics say that's bullshit.

Do you have cites for that? If so I would love to hear them. I always thought that they were (semi, sorta, kinda) legit, as they conflate accidents with acts of violence. Its the same thing as saying you're more likely to get into an auto accident if you own a car than if you don't. No S!@# Sherlock. The question is that we wouldn't take that from MADD using it to toughen more illegal searches to crack down on DUI, but people do to tighten restrictions on guns. Elmer Fudd shooting himself in the the foot while hunting Wabbitts is different than a crime victim. The Brady Bunch elides that distinction. If their raw numbers are wrong, even before the sleight of hand that's a great thing.
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[MikeBjerum]

We don't need to take a census.  Go for efficiency and use the records they already have - The IRS collects this information every year on every one of us.  They know how much we make, how we make it, how many in every household, our status as citizens or visitors, and our home ownership status.

Questions that the census asks that the IRS does not already have are genders and race, but as I recall those are unconstitutional items to base any decisions off of anyway.

Quit wasting our time and money, and read the public reports that are current every year!

[Rastus]

We don't need to take a census.  Go for efficiency and use the records they already have - The IRS collects this information every year on every one of us.  They know how much we make, how we make it, how many in every household, our status as citizens or visitors, and our home ownership status.

Questions that the census asks that the IRS does not already have are genders and race, but as I recall those are unconstitutional items to base any decisions off of anyway.

Quit wasting our time and money, and read the public reports that are current every year!

Hear! Hear!

And then the money the government distributes will not go to areas of gross population imbalance by undocumented illegal persons if based on tax receipts.

[tombogan03884]

Do you have cites for that? If so I would love to hear them. I always thought that they were (semi, sorta, kinda) legit, as they conflate accidents with acts of violence. Its the same thing as saying you're more likely to get into an auto accident if you own a car than if you don't. No S!@# Sherlock. The question is that we wouldn't take that from MADD using it to toughen more illegal searches to crack down on DUI, but people do to tighten restrictions on guns. Elmer Fudd shooting himself in the the foot while hunting Wabbitts is different than a crime victim. The Brady Bunch elides that distinction. If their raw numbers are wrong, even before the sleight of hand that's a great thing.
FQ13

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Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were:119Resisting with a gun 6% Did nothing at all 25% Resisted with a knife 40% Non-violent resistance 45%
 I neglected to post the references, if you want them read the  web booklet.

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[fightingquaker13]

     www.gunfacts.info

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Myth: You are more likely to be injured or killed using a gun for self-defense Fact: You are far more likely to survive a violent assault if you defend yourself with a gun. In episodes where a robbery victim was injured, the injury/defense rates were:119Resisting with a gun 6% Did nothing at all 25% Resisted with a knife 40% Non-violent resistance 45%
 I neglected to post the references, if you want them read the  web booklet.

Thanks.
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