City requires Facebook passwords from job applicants

[Timothy]

you missed my point, you make a mistake on the job site, it comes out of my pocket.  Theft is another prob in my indstury, if your addicted to something chances are good you will steal to feed that addiction.  Theft cost me almost 20k last year.

but you are right, what yuou do on your time is non of my biz... would you let a methaddict in your home?  he is sober on the clock... so you will let him in right?

Your stretching here, there is a big difference between a person that smokes pot and an ADDICT!  If you think it's only the folks that smoke pot that are stealing, your even more naive than I thought.  It's usually the people you THINK you can trust that are screwing you the deepest! 

I've managed people for years and I applaud your guts to have your own business and make a go of it alone but don't write off someone because you don't agree with their lifestyle.

For the sake of full disclosure, I'm an alcoholic and I also smoked pot for twenty years and believe me, booze wasn't too hard to quit, cigarettes were nearly impossible but I stopped smoking pot overnight.  No problem at all, marijuana is NOT an addictive drug, never has been.  While both alcohol and cigarettes are both highly addictive, both are legal in all fifty states with the exception of a few hundred counties across the US.   

WTF!

[1911 Junkie]

Your stretching here, there is a big difference between a person that smokes pot and a junkie! 
WTF!

Watch it there, killer. 

Not all junkies are bad. 

[Timothy]

Watch it there, killer. 

Not all junkies are bad. 

My apologies kind sir!     (fixed it)

[TAB]

Your stretching here, there is a big difference between a person that smokes pot and a junkie!  If you think it's only the folks that smoke pot that are stealing, your even more naive than I thought.  It's usually the people you THINK you can trust that are screwing you the deepest! 

I've managed people for years and I applaud your guts to have your own business and make a go of it alone but don't write off someone because you don't agree with their lifestyle.

For the sake of full disclosure, I'm an alcoholic and I also smoked pot for twenty years and believe me, booze wasn't too hard to quit, cigarettes were nearly impossible but I stopped smoking pot overnight.  No problem at all, marijuana is NOT an addictive drug, never has been.  While both alcohol and cigarettes are both addictive, both are legal in all fifty states with the exception of a few hundred counties across the US.   

WTF!

pot is addicting, not so much the drug, but the way it makes you feel is.  I know lots of stoners( I work in construction,) when they don't get high they are  a very diffrent person, exactly like some one quiting a addictive drug... granted they don't have the pyhsical signs, but every thing else is there.  I didn't say the addicts are the ones stealing, just that chances are greater that they are.  I fight the sterotype that we are all drunks and stoners every day.

[Timothy]

Well TAB, with the exception of my immediate family, most of the people I deal with every day are alcoholics, they just don't know it yet.  Americans drink too much, smoke too much and fail to see the forest for the trees!  To each his own as they say...

You and I will probably never agree on anything and that is something I'm not gonna lose any sleep over.  You've placed more sterotypes in the last few paragraphs and have your own predisposed prejudices that no amount of rational argument is going to change.

I've been in the workforce for 37 years and been out of work for a total of four months.  Pretty unreliable for an "Old Stoner"!

I must admit, I think I stole a cheap Bic pen by accident last week!  I'll be sure to return it in the morning and pay my penance!

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[TAB]

you never answered my question.

are you ok with letting a meth addict into your home to preform work as long as they are sober while there?


if not, why should my clients be?

[Timothy]

The issue was never addicts TAB, it WAS about marijuana.

No one would knowingly hire a methamphetamine addict.  And no, I would not want one in my house any more than I would allow someone to smoke pot in my house or drink to excess in my house.  If you don't like my rules, your not welcome into my domicile. 

To tell you the truth, I do all the work around my house including plumbing and electrical work to avoid have ANY contractors inside because I don't trust contractors in general.  I don't need to hire someone for something I'm perfectly capable of doing myself!  If you ever run across one of those lists of 100 things that most guys SHOULD be able to do, I'm one of those guys!

[TAB]

There are many things even a very handy person can not do, rather it be from a legal stand point ( asbestos  removal for example)or can't do from logicstics stand point( anything that requires tools that are $$$$, jacking a house comes to mind.)

The part about not trusting contractors in general, is exactly what I'm talking about, I have to fight that every single day.

Its the reason why I will not hire people that , drink(aka drunks, not the guy that has a beer or two at a BBQ), smoke or do drugs.  Even my back ground checks go well beyond what is legally needed to work with children in this state. 

Its also the reason why all my employees must be clean shaven, tuck in thier shirts, have a collered shirt, no tats( had a prob with even having them covered).  if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out.   

[Timothy]

Well, if I ever had to jack up a house, I didn't do a very thorough job in selecting it when I bought it, my bad. 

In MA, it's not legal to sell a home with asbestos in it and hasn't been legal since the early eighties.  Not a lot left in homes but it is still a problem in the schools.  With my nuclear background, I would have no problem performing the work though!

Don't get me wrong TAB, I support your right to hire whomever you choose.  I'm not a believer in affirmative action, equal opprotunity or other laws intent on forcing an employers hand.  Hire the person most qualified, period.

I'm a bit cynical I admit but, my experiences with specific contractors has been dismal.  You appear to care about the client, good for you.  If you ever lose sight of what's right and just, your lost.  Best of luck too you...

[Rob10ring]

I don't drink, smoke or take drugs and I'm not giving up my personal privacy to an employer. Especially a government employer. That is ludicrous!