How do you dig a fox hole?

[fightingquaker13]

Old Army joke:

2nd LT " Staff Sgt, where my foxhole?"

Staff Sgt " Right there Lt, just move the dirt and rocks out of your way."

That's rightous and funny!

Only works if you edit to 1st Lt., any 2nd Lt. with  a brain is still afraid of the NCOs.
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[Badgersmilk]

Ping, It's funny you say you were glad to see the Kevlar helmets.  I got one early on when they came out and finally found somebody to trade with to get the old steel pot back!  We did some "destructive testing" on a few of both and fournd that anything more than a pistol shooting from 25 yards pierced both helmets readily.  The kevlar helmet would splinter and do VERY ugly things inside when shot.  Plus it weighed a HELL of a lot more than the old steel pot.  Even a little extra weight really adds up at the end of a 17hr day not being able to take the thing off for more than a minute or two.  You could cook inside the steel pot, dig with it, conduct scorpion fights in it, and even throw it onto the ramp without cracking it when your scorpion lost (what people will do for entertainment in the desert).  I still have mine, and all my chem. gear because they said.  "Oh, we cant take this, we dont have any record of it being issued to you."  when I out processed.  My buddy got to keep his M4 for the same reason!!!  Lucky $#$%& (#(@$(* #(%*&( *#(@*(@*$(*%!  There was STACKS of all kinds of gear outside that people just dumped because they couldnt turn it in and didnt want to get in trouble for still having it.  I figured I'd get in trouble either way, might as well keep it.

[tombogan03884]

Ping, It's funny you say you were glad to see the Kevlar helmets.  I got one early on when they came out and finally found somebody to trade with to get the old steel pot back!  We did some "destructive testing" on a few of both and fournd that anything more than a pistol shooting from 25 yards pierced both helmets readily.  The kevlar helmet would splinter and do VERY ugly things inside when shot. Plus it weighed a HELL of a lot more than the old steel pot.  Even a little extra weight really adds up at the end of a 17hr day not being able to take the thing off for more than a minute or two.  You could cook inside the steel pot, dig with it, conduct scorpion fights in it, and even throw it onto the ramp without cracking it when your scorpion lost (what people will do for entertainment in the desert).  I still have mine, and all my chem. gear because they said.  "Oh, we cant take this, we dont have any record of it being issued to you."  when I out processed.  My buddy got to keep his M4 for the same reason!!!  Lucky $#$%& (#(@$(* #(%*&( *#(@*(@*$(*%!  There was STACKS of all kinds of gear outside that people just dumped because they couldnt turn it in and didnt want to get in trouble for still having it.  I figured I'd get in trouble either way, might as well keep it.

I'm glad it's NOT just me that thought that the Kevlar was heavier. You forgot to mention that you could also use the steel pot for a basin.

[fightingquaker13]

I'm glad it's NOT just me that thought that the Kevlar was heavier. You forgot to mention that you could also use the steel pot for a basin.

One of the big advantages of kevlar, in theory, is shock absorbtion. Its supposed to be better for blast damage, falling on your head and non-pentrating shrapnel. Based solely on the large numbers of blunt trauma to the brain we're seeing, survey says it works (kind of) as a lot of those guys would just have been dead earlier. Sanjay Gupta, a neuro surgeon, did an interesting piece on the effectiveness of modern armor on CNN a year or two ago. His focus was on all the new problems his caused for military doctors, who just weren't prepared to treat what would have been fatal wounds, like traumatic brain injury. There wasn't a lot on the armor itself and why it did or didn't do the job.
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[tombogan03884]

One of the big advantages of kevlar, in theory, is shock absorbtion. Its supposed to be better for blast damage, falling on your head and non-pentrating shrapnel. Based solely on the large numbers of blunt trauma to the brain we're seeing, survey says it works (kind of) as a lot of those guys would just have been dead earlier. Sanjay Gupta, a neuro surgeon, did an interesting piece on the effectiveness of modern armor on CNN a year or two ago. His focus was on all the new problems his caused for military doctors, who just weren't prepared to treat what would have been fatal wounds, like traumatic brain injury. There wasn't a lot on the armor itself and why it did or didn't do the job.
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Did they mention that the increased weight has caused spinal problems to become just about universal among US troops deployed. They are measured before and after deployment, troops have been found to have lost as much as 3 inches in height.

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[fightingquaker13]

Did they mention that the increased weight has caused spinal problems to become just about universal among US troops deployed. They are measured before and after deployment, troops have been found to have lost as much as 3 inches in height.

That is frightening, but believable. I had friend in college who was doing Marine PLS. He wanted to fly, but was 1/2" too tall. On the advice of a seargant, he wore a seventy pound pack everywhere but the shower for three weeks before the flight physical. It worked.
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[Badgersmilk]

Directly from the "Combat Skills" manual:


Everything but indoor plumbing:


Better pack a lunch when your digging that puppy!!!

My back hurts looking at the picture.

[Sgt Z Squad]

I know what your thinking!  But, there's more to it than you may think!

Good video.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/73718/mail-call-foxhole#s-p1-so-i1

Anybody get that radio working??? 

Us old Jarheads dig fighting holes only..

[Big Frank]

How do you dig a foxhole? Very slowly when the ground is frozen to 17 below zero. We had 2-person foxholes that were unlike anything in the videos. We had to stay in the foxholes and one person could sleep while the other was on guard duty.

[tombogan03884]

Well first you get her to take off,.....
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