What's your favorite caliber?

[Badgersmilk]

Some tasty options:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=14748&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_TAC_Desert_Recon.asp

INTERESTING ARTICLE & SITE:

http://www.survival-gear-guide.com/Survival-Rifles.html

While I dont agree with his .22 coment...  Its pretty darn funny!!!

"Now, while a .22LR is a great survival rifle, with its light weight and light inexpensive ammo, and compact size... If you find yourself about to be mauled by a bear, cougar, Lion, etc...  you might as well just throw it on the ground.  Option 2 would be to use it to take yourself out with a head shot and avoid the unpleasant experience of being semi-consciously disemboweled and eaten for lunch.  There are other scenarios, such as accidentally running across a not-so-legal alcohol producing operation, or marijuana farm, for example, where you might not get a warm welcome, and be forced to defend yourself.
SO... if you plan to go hiking, camping, or otherwise romping through the woods in an area that is potentially inhabited by predators, human or otherwise, may we suggest option 3:  Pack a larger caliber rifle.  Again, some people prefer a large caliber revolver such as a .44 or .357 as a survival gun, but if you choose to carry a weapon, a larger caliber survival rifle will not only protect you from predators, but will make life easier if you find yourself lost or stranded and need to kill game.   Keep in mind that with bigger caliber weapons, comes bigger heavier guns,  bigger heavier ammunition, and bigger heavier price tags.  Here are some choices for this category of survival rifle:"

Having read this.  I again refer you to:

[twyacht]

Barrett M468 in 6.8SPC. (ok not on list)...

Always in a "only one" category, the 12g.  For concealment, I guess I would have to cut it down. If it gets to that point, having a "tiny 12g" that is illegal will be the least of my worries.


Take the drum off and a box mag make's this a "nice little friend":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsQDq9_wvk

This one is even more concealable:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-UvH715wNI&feature=related

[JSC3ATLCSO]

I'll take my .308 M1a and be up on the hillside.  Better be labled friendly PLAINLY and CLEARLY

[Ping]

Yeah Kid, I have seen the Henry's Survival .22. Thought about getting a pair for my boys. I have a Glenfield Model 60 that my Dad gave me over 30 years ago. The tube magazine spring is getting worn and it had some issues ejecting. I need to give it some TLC. I have it ready for squirrel hunting. Great rifle and dialed in to perfection.

[m25operator]

If I have to grab it in the middle of the night, stuffs coming down and I got to boog, My 16" CAR15 and my 870, and my Glock 17,  + whats in my pants at all times, a 5 shot S&W 9mm with 2 reloads, + the 649 body guard with 1 reload, because that is whats available at arms length, in my bedroom. The Car15 has a 2, 30 round mags attached, and an aimpoint comp m3, the 870 has a 7 rd tube and a 6 shot side saddle, shot and slugs, the glock has a 28 round magazine inserted and ready to go. Well the body guard has 5 + 1 speed loader, that is for my wife when I'm not home. I assume we are bugging out in the truck, Glock 21 with 2 mags in there. There is a 50 round bandoleer of 12 guage to go with the 870, mixed shot and slugs.

Now if I get 30 minutes or more to get ready, all of the above + the M1a, and loaded mags, takes 2 people to load the ammo box. + the spare mags and ammo for the Glock 21, I have used the .45 acp more than most for hunting, mostly with 185 semi wadcutters, quiet and excellent for rabbits and squirrels, I have harvested 2 deer with 230 grn slugs, again, quiet at a distance. Not to mention food and water, bug out bag etc...

A method I have used in a jungle walk with lots of targets, and unknown obstacles, was a bird bag for hunting, 3 bags, which originally were 2 for shotgun shells, and 1 big bag for birds, and it is rubberlined to prevent blood from bleeding through,  the big bag can hold 500 .357 easy, probably 200 .308 and 400 .223. For a lever action it would work perfectly. Rifle or pistol cartridges. I would say in .44, with all 3 bags, you could carry 500 rounds at your fingertip for loading.

I think the question is too broad, but as we go through it, maybe some cool stuff will come out.

[Sponsor]

[fightingquaker13]

If I have to grab it in the middle of the night, stuffs coming down and I got to boog, My 16" CAR15 and my 870, and my Glock 17,  + whats in my pants at all times, a 5 shot S&W 9mm with 2 reloads, + the 649 body guard with 1 reload, because that is whats available at arms length, in my bedroom. The Car15 has a 2, 30 round mags attached, and an aimpoint comp m3, the 870 has a 7 rd tube and a 6 shot side saddle, shot and slugs, the glock has a 28 round magazine inserted and ready to go. Well the body guard has 5 + 1 speed loader, that is for my wife when I'm not home. I assume we are bugging out in the truck, Glock 21 with 2 mags in there. There is a 50 round bandoleer of 12 guage to go with the 870, mixed shot and slugs.

Now if I get 30 minutes or more to get ready, all of the above + the M1a, and loaded mags, takes 2 people to load the ammo box. + the spare mags and ammo for the Glock 21, I have used the .45 acp more than most for hunting, mostly with 185 semi wadcutters, quiet and excellent for rabbits and squirrels, I have harvested 2 deer with 230 grn slugs, again, quiet at a distance. Not to mention food and water, bug out bag etc...

A method I have used in a jungle walk with lots of targets, and unknown obstacles, was a bird bag for hunting, 3 bags, which originally were 2 for shotgun shells, and 1 big bag for birds, and it is rubberlined to prevent blood from bleeding through,  the big bag can hold 500 .357 easy, probably 200 .308 and 400 .223. For a lever action it would work perfectly. Rifle or pistol cartridges. I would say in .44, with all 3 bags, you could carry 500 rounds at your fingertip for loading.

I think the question is too broad, but as we go through it, maybe some cool stuff will come out.

You know, M25
I don't know whether to find you reassuring, or be very, very afraid of you. Personally, I am sitting on my bed, within reach of a Glock 26 and a Maverick 12 20" barrel, 8 round tube security model, under the bed. In my closet I have a loaded Ruger M77 in .270 as well as a 10/22 and 100 rounds of ammo for each and there is a Glock 19, one Clinton 10 rd mag, in my truck's (gas tank never less than 3/4ths full, tire pump and woodsman's jack and Craftsman tool kit)  in the glove box. I also have a backpack(now that its hurricane season) that I pack every June, with the essential camping gear (stove, water purifier, rain gear, 1st aid, tent, 3 days food etc) ready to go. I can be out the door in ten minutes tops. I am glad to find someone more paranoid, er, I mean prepared than I. I may be a Libertarian, or liberal to the ill informed, but I am one by God, prepared Libertarian.
FQ13 who says, you may catch me, but you damn sure won't catch me unprepared

[m25operator]

We're no where close to each other, except as Texas distances go, for me to go look for trouble, yes, I can start trouble, but don't want to. I would probably stick to the house, unless the house itself is compromised, then off to the panhandle with as much as I can carry. I would love to be a libertarian, if the Libertarians could come to grips with abortion, how many of us would come to the defense of a month old child, and do it with extreme prejudice?  But a late term momma, who decides its not just her time to have a child, or the worst case, a rape that ends in pregnancy, Lots of harm, and lots of foul, but none of it is the fetus fault.

I back off now, and allow for your thoughts.

I have been preparing for these times for a long  time, I don't want it but if it comes can arm my neighbors with arms and ammo. I know at least a few neighbors I can count on. They don't need my help, but know we can count on each other.

[fightingquaker13]

who decides its not just her time to have a child,

know we can count on each other.

Its those two words, Who Decides? I know its damn sure not me. A girlfriend and I had a bit of a pregnancy scare when I was much younger and a junior  in school. I bought two things. The pregnacy test, and I asked my mom for the diamond from her wedding band (she was divorced) and talked to a jewler about getting it made into a wedding ring. I didn't love the girl, but we were pretty good friends, sex aside, and I figured that was enough to be getting on with as it was better than most married couples start with. I believe passionately that there are two kinds of men in this world. Those who get a girl pregnant and put a ring on her finger and do their best to be DADS not just fathers, to their kids, and then there are scumbags. Say what you will about me, but I know what I want written on my tombstone.  Fortunatly for all  of us it was a false alarm. The point is, I personally don't believe in abortion, but I would never presume to make that CHOICE for someone else. Now, not only can we debate this till we turn blue in the face, we can probably take the other guys side and speak their lines. Its one of thoses things where you believe what you believe. BUT I still hope we can agree to disagree and still COUNT ON EACH OTHER as two like minded (in other respects) citizens.
FQ13

[Ping]

You know, M25
I don't know whether to find you reassuring, or be very, very afraid of you.

I trust M25operator more than I do most of my family cause he is on the money when it comes to advice on weapons and ammo. I cannot say the same for some that I served with in the Air Force from 1988-1992.

That is my two bits. Take it or leave it, but M25 is knowledgeable. And I support him.

[tombogan03884]

I trust M25operator more than I do most of my family cause he is on the money when it comes to advice on weapons and ammo. I cannot say the same for some that I served with in the Air Force from 1988-1992.

That is my two bits. Take it or leave it, but M25 is knowledgeable. And I support him.

Not to take away from what Ping said about M25, because I agree. But Marines are closer to Marines they hate than they are to relatives they like.  Except for those who have gone totally beyond the Pale like Robert Garwood or John Murtha  for them there is a special hatred that stems from the sense of betrayal, If Bin Laden were standing with either of those 2 I would not shoot OBL first..