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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2009, 01:30:35 PM »
It passed the House today!
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2009, 01:35:52 PM »
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2009, 01:40:51 PM »
 I have an idea how to solve the problem of these scum. From the other thread I know that some of you have the specs for a proper fox hole, are there plans in there for mass graves as well ?

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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2009, 01:56:28 PM »
It passed the House today!

The bill has NOT passed yet.  The vote held today (6/28) was to send it to the floor for a vote.  It does mean that it will take extraordinary pressure to prevent it from being passed.  This bill has little to do about reducing CO2 and everything to do with lining people’s pockets with money.
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 02:47:56 PM »
The bill has NOT passed yet.  The vote held today (6/28) was to send it to the floor for a vote.  It does mean that it will take extraordinary pressure to prevent it from being passed.  This bill has little to do about reducing CO2 and everything to do with lining picking the average people’s pockets with money.


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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2009, 03:23:59 PM »
Even the Chicago Tribune is having doubts with Cap and TAX (trade) Bill!

"Democratic leaders need to slow down. This proposed legislation would affect every American individual and company for generations. There's a huge amount of money at stake: $845 billion for the federal government in the first 10 years. Untold thousands of jobs created -- or lost. This requires careful study, not a Springfield-style here's-the-bill-let's-vote rush job."

Full article from the Opinion page: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/chi-0625edit2jun25,0,7298930.story
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2009, 03:58:05 PM »
I just heard that they plan a floor vote yet today.  Call your congress person now!

These people couldn't manage the switch from analog to digital TV.  They had to extend the deadline and increase the budget for $40 coupons.  Do you think they can get this right?  The arrogance of these feakin’ people. 

DO THEY REALLY THINK THEY CAN MANAGE THE ATMOSPHERE?

CO2 is monticule in the atmosphere.  Here are the facts:

Nitrogen (N2): 78.084% or 780,840 ppmv
Oxygen (O2): 20.946% or 209,460 ppmv
Argon (Ar): 0.9340%) or 9,340 ppmv
Carbon dioxide (CO2): 0.0383% or 383 ppmv
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2009, 08:25:47 PM »
The bill has NOT passed yet.  The vote held today (6/28) was to send it to the floor for a vote.  It does mean that it will take extraordinary pressure to prevent it from being passed.  This bill has little to do about reducing CO2 and everything to do with lining people’s pockets with money.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090627/ap_on_go_co/us_climate_bill

WASHINGTON – In a triumph for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed sweeping legislation Friday that calls for the nation's first limits on pollution linked to global warming and aims to usher in a new era of cleaner, yet more costly energy.

The vote was 219-212, capping months of negotiations and days of intense bargaining among Democrats. Republicans were overwhelmingly against the measure, arguing it would destroy jobs in the midst of a recession while burdening consumers with a new tax in the form of higher energy costs.

The House's action fulfilled Speaker Nancy Pelosi's vow to clear major energy legislation before July 4. It also sent the measure to a highly uncertain fate in the Senate, where Majority Leader Harry Reid said he was "hopeful that the Senate will be able to debate and pass bipartisan and comprehensive clean energy and climate legislation this fall."

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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2009, 10:15:24 PM »
The fight moves to the Senate..
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Re: Cap and TAX (Trade) needs to be STOPPED!
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 11:28:48 AM »
The fight moves to the Senate..

Got this today from one of my Senators, Chambliss (R) concerning the "crap & tax"..........


Cap and Trade/Climate Change Legislation

In the past few weeks I have heard from many of you who are concerned about the Cap and Trade bill, which passed in the House a couple of weeks ago. Right now, if the House-passed bill came to the Senate, in my opinion it wouldn’t generate 35 votes because it’s such an expensive bill. Additionally it requires a tremendous overhaul in the way that we would have to operate from a climate change standpoint. While all of us want to make sure that we breathe clean air, have clean water and that we leave this country in better shape than which we found it, there’s got to be a measured approach in dealing with this issue.

First of all, Cap and Trade will have an immediate impact on your utility bill. The Cap and Trade bill seeks to quantify and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Those emissions are primarily carbon dioxide, and our power plants in the Southeast are fueled by coal and emit carbon dioxide.

The power companies are moving in the direction of more nuclear production in the southeast, but until these new nuclear facilities are on line, they’re going to have to continue to use coal. They’re working hard to make sure they use less carbon dioxide, but if this legislation were to go into effect, we would see an immediate increase in our utility bills somewhere around 150 percent.


I will continue to work to ensure Georgians are not negatively impacted by any climate change legislation.



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