Insurgent Sniping In Iraq

[tombogan03884]

I think it does amazingly well considering its using a combat rifle semi-auto action!  That kind of power in the ubber reliable AK action?  LOVE IT!  Wish like heck I had 3K+ to drop on a good one.

You don't know what you are talking about, That study th Reds did led to the design of the SVD. It was designed to be "Good Enough" no more.

[Badgersmilk]

In talking about Soviet snipers durring that war...  I may be wrong, but I really dont think hardly ANY got an oportunity to use SVD's when the Nagants were so much cheaper to produce.  The russians had a pretty darn good team of women snipers working for them.  As I understand it NONE of them saw anything but 91/30's.  Vasili who you mentioned always used a 91/30 to my knowledge as well.

[Badgersmilk]

You don't know what you are talking about, That study th Reds did led to the design of the SVD. It was designed to be "Good Enough" no more.

Huh?  I know Russians designed the SVD.  They didnt build "Romanian" PSL's though.

[Timothy]

I don't know shit about these rifles but Romania was a member of the Warsaw Pact and controlled by the Soviets until 1989 or so.  Anything produced in Romania at the time had Soviet influence.

[tombogan03884]

The PSL was DESIGNED for sniping.
2 good books on Soviet snipers, Enemy at the Gates, and War of the Rats both deal with the same incident during the siege of Stalingrad, the duel between Zaitsev and Koenig that ended with Col. Koenigs death, Vasili Zaitsev survived the war.
The Soviets did a post war study of sniping, (all Soviet snipers were required to maintain a record book of their shots)
The results of the study found that even when fighting on the Steppes nearly all shots were made at less than 600 meters, and the 2 most important factors for the snipers rifle was the ability to make fast follow up shots, and absolute reliability, these were found to be more important than extreme accuracy as in most cases a severe wound is as effective if not more so than an instantly fatal shot.

First war the Soviets used the SVD in was Afghanistan, (First war they had after WWII) The PSL is basically a modified RPD machine gun, there is nothing inherently wrong with the design it has been proven over decades. And like the Tabuk, it seems to be getting the job done so I guess it ain't such a POS after all.

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[Badgersmilk]

Given a choice I'd much rather have the dozen Mosin Nagants you could buy with the money.

Can you count the number of things this dude is doing wrong?  
 

[fightingquaker13]

Given a choice I'd much rather have the dozen Mosin Nagants you could buy with the money.

Can you count the number of things this dude is doing wrong?  Takes more than one hand if your using fingers.
 

I see about four, beyond the blatantly obvious, which might count for two. Please enlighten us as to the others, as it could provide a useful sub thread.
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[Badgersmilk]

I count four myself.  But he's got the boys from france beat hands down!


Somebody let that poor guy know he's pulling the trigger on an open bolt!  France 

[m25operator]

I see about four, beyond the blatantly obvious, which might count for two. Please enlighten us as to the others, as it could provide a useful sub thread.
FQ13

He is in a stable 4 point position, I don't know what he is shooting at, and what the foliage in front of him provides, is it  high grass, he cannot go prone, is it beyond 400 meters, then not as stable a platform as one would like, but if the shot has to be taken, best case position. Not ideal except in concept. He is not ghillied up which probably makes him a designated marksman. Or he is just posing for a picture, but he is slung up in a stable position. Would it make any difference if he was aiming any other rifle?

If he takes only 1 shot, He will probably get away. If he moves away of course.

[fightingquaker13]

He is in a stable 4 point position, I don't know what he is shooting at, and what the foliage in front of him provides, is it  high grass, he cannot go prone, is it beyond 400 meters, then not as stable a platform as one would like, but if the shot has to be taken, best case position. Not ideal except in concept. He is not ghillied up which probably makes him a designated marksman. Or he is just posing for a picture, but he is slung up in a stable position. Would it make any difference if he was aiming any other rifle?

If he takes only 1 shot, He will probably get away. If he moves away of course.

My take, which is less educated than yours with all your classes is this. I just put it out so I can be corrected if I'm wrong.
1His elbow, rather than his arm appears to be touching his knee, bone to bone equals less stable.
2. He's "hiding"  behind a freaking twig that provides no cover and little cocealment.
3. Said "cover" is also a glaringly obvious place to look for the sourse of an incomeing round.
4. He's kneeling, rather than sitting which provides a more stable rest with zero loss of elevation. I was taught (perhaps erroneously) that the only reason to kneel rather than sit was if you had to move IMMEDIATELY after the shot.
5. (the obvious) He's using an AK (which I like) as a SNIPER weapon. (and yes this was sarcasm, as I said, I like AKs)
Your feedback would be appreciated.
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