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Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« on: July 01, 2009, 09:21:33 AM »
By DANE SCHILLER Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
June 30, 2009, 9:36PM

In front of a run-down shack in north Houston, federal agents step from a government sedan into 102-degree heat and face a critical question: How can the woman living here buy four high-end handguns in one day?

The house is worth $35,000. A screen dangles by a wall-unit air conditioner. Porch swing slats are smashed, the smattering of grass is flattened by cars and burned yellow by sun.

“I’ll do the talking on this one,” agent Tim Sloan, of South Carolina, told partner Brian Tumiel, of New York.

Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — sent here from around the country — are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a “massive number of investigative leads.”

All told, Mexican officials in 2008 asked federal agents to trace the origins of more than 7,500 firearms recovered at crime scenes in Mexico. Most of them were traced back to Texas, California and Arizona.

Among other things, the agents are combing neighborhoods and asking people about suspicious purchases as well as seeking explanations as to how their guns ended up used in murders, kidnappings and other crimes in Mexico.

“Ever turning up the heat on cartels, our law enforcement and military partners in the government of Mexico have been working more closely with the ATF by sharing information and intelligence,” Melson said Tuesday during a firearms-trafficking summit in New Mexico.
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The ATF recently dispatched 100 veteran agents to its Houston division, which reaches to the border.

The mission is especially challenging because, officials say, that while Houston is the number one point of origin for weapons traced back to the United States from Mexico, the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

Agents instead review firearms dealers’ records in person.

People who are legally in the United States and have clean criminal records, but are facing economic problems are often recruited by traffickers to buy weapons on their behalf in order to shield themselves from scrutiny.

Knocks at the door of the shack that looked to be the definition of hard times went unanswered.

“I am out of here,” Sloan said a few moments later, as a pit bull lazily sauntered from the back yard. “I don’t like pit bulls walking up behind me.”
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On second thought, Sloan switched to Spanish and interviewed a neighbor.

The neighbor said the woman left a month ago after a fight with her husband or boyfriend, who still lived there with what she called “other degenerates.”

“An angry ex-girlfriend or wife is the best person in the world, the greatest source of information,” Sloan said.

The night before, the duo were in a stakeout where they watched a weapons sale.

They also combined efforts with the Drug Enforcement Administration for an aircraft to stealthily follow traffickers to the border.

On this day, agents weren’t wearing raid jackets or combat boots and weren’t armed with warrants.

Guns were hidden under civilian shirts.

Another tip took agents on a 30-minute drive from the shack to a sprawling home with a pool in the back and an American flag out front.

It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice.

Some stories, they say, are hard to believe.

The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.

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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 09:32:48 AM »

Some stories, they say, are hard to believe.

The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.

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Must not be a gun guy....When I get a new one I have to constantly fondle it for at least 12 hours.  ;D
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 02:26:05 PM »
Seems to me that the ATF is becoming much like the IRS, using tactics that mark you as guilty if you challenge their authority. Was it really that long ago that property rights were considered sacred? The feds are becoming increasingly bold in their actions against the American people. I won't be surprised if we start seeing a lot more "barricaded suspects".

It is time that agents, (from federal down to the meter maid) got knocked off their high horse, and brought back to reality.
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 02:53:58 PM »
Seems to me that the ATF is becoming much like the IRS, using tactics that mark you as guilty if you challenge their authority. Was it really that long ago that property rights were considered sacred? The feds are becoming increasingly bold in their actions against the American people. I won't be surprised if we start seeing a lot more "barricaded suspects".

It is time that agents, (from federal down to the meter maid) got knocked off their high horse, and brought back to reality.

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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 03:23:27 PM »
This is a scary situation.  Instead of focusing on the problem of the gun traffickers they focus on Americans - some older woman with three “high-end” (whatever that means) handguns and a pastor with a target pistol.

This work took dozens of agents – a very productive day!

With all of this available talent perhaps they should employ better planning and consider going after the people running the gun across the Border instead of an old lady and pastor.
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2009, 04:14:30 PM »
This is a scary situation.  Instead of focusing on the problem of the gun traffickers they focus on Americans - some older woman with three “high-end” (whatever that means) handguns and a pastor with a target pistol.

This work took dozens of agents – a very productive day!

With all of this available talent perhaps they should employ better planning and consider going after the people running the gun across the Border instead of an old lady and pastor.



Not to cloud the issue, but they need to be looking for these guns on Mexico's southern border, not ours.
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 01:39:17 AM »
This makes me sick to my stomach and it happened in my own back yard. Right there in Houston. >:(
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 02:29:54 AM »


Some stories, they say, are hard to believe.

The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.

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something wrong there...  I can understand leaving them in the car if your trying to hide them from your wife, I can even beleave forgeting to lock your door, but no way in hell can I see a LEO not filing a police report, when some one entered thier car and stole fire arms.   
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Re: Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 03:03:26 AM »
And yet another reason to have a Texas CHL (Concealed Handgun License) when buying a firearm. Funny I have to say this but, I won't let my wife buy any guns, surprise gift or otherwise. If guns need to be purchased for this household, I am doing the buying.

What I really need to do is get her a CHL and be done with it. Might be coming to that very soon. Just found out a new DRTV member is a certified instructed not far from where I live and close to a nice brewery. ;D Going to be visiting him soon for renewal course.
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