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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2009, 10:08:39 AM »

Tim, that's one of the reasons I bought the Tundra. It rides more like a car and the 4x4 does great in the snow and 4x4'n in the mountains on my hunting trips ;D

If I lived where some of you guys do, I would consider alternate transportation myself.  Up here in the Northeast, I've never owned a 4x4 anything and I don't get stuck.  I learned to drive in MI back in the 70's and for the small amount of snow we get in my area, maybe 110 inches on a BAD winter, it's just not worth the extra expense and upkeep of a 4x4.

The SIL had a Tundra for about a year until the gas spiked above 4 bucks a gallon, he unloaded that thing for a considerable loss.  I did get to drive it once and it was bar far the best riding ANYTHING I've ever personally driven.  Toyota does a nice job on everything they make, I just don't want to spend that kind of money when I'm less than 15 years from retirement.

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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2009, 10:27:04 AM »
I would love a Dual Cab Toyota Tundra


they did not do an Aussie version though as they think it would not sell here 

they look very cool and bigger than a Roll-Lux
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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2009, 12:54:27 PM »
Ford's books get a lot of help from fleet sales........ DOTs, LE Agencies, etc.

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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 03:16:31 PM »
Ford's books get a lot of help from fleet sales........ DOTs, LE Agencies, etc.



don't forget construction companys...


its like the old saying says...

you want a truck to work, buy a ford.  you want a truck to drive around in, get a chevy.


i've several of both, the fords have out lasted the chevys and have had fewer probs. 
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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2009, 03:53:22 PM »
Does Ford really donate to a gay rights organization? Which one? Is there a news link?

Does Toyota do it too?

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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2009, 04:01:17 PM »
Does Ford really donate to a gay rights organization? Which one? Is there a news link?

Does Toyota do it too?

I believed they did in order to get advertising spaces on various medias, but I've read that they've stopped cause it was to much trouble.

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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2009, 07:21:53 PM »
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But when I found out that Ford donates $1000 from every new vehicle sale to a gay rights orginization I swore I'd never even give them a chance till that policy ended.
Having worked for Ford dealers for 25 years I find this shocking!  I guess I'm gay. :o   I'm sorry but I find this hard to believe.  If they gave that kind of money to gay rights, same sex marriage would be legal by now. 

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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 08:55:09 PM »
I've nothing but Fords. One of which, an escort will never be spoken of again. The other three, an F-100, a ranger and now an F-150. No repairs (knock wood) that weren't either in the norml life expectancy of a part or nonsence like headlight brackets or a window motor that fall into the small dollar aggravation category. Other folks make fine trucks, I'm with TAB though, in that I don't care about deppreciation as  I tend to drive mine well north of 100K.
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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2009, 09:12:58 PM »
Waying in shooter 32, cars are my business, trucks included, I work on them and fix them, neither ford or toyota are my area of expertise. In my experience Toyota is a higher quality product, that does not mean that Ford is bad, my main marquee is Volvo, the car, not the heavy truck line. I base my decisions against Volvo, which have built their reputation on longevity, and it is justified. Toyota has built a reputation on the same, but in my observance, Toyota products will last beyond 200k miles, but they look like it, interiors are trash, plastic pieces all broken, but mechanically still strong. Ford products go all over the place, they make very cheap vehicles and better vehicles, and they are not comparable, a focus, vs a Crown Vic, vs a truck, not apples and apples. Some of the Diesel offerings in the trucks are trash, and the 100k warranty they are not backing up. Putting the problem on the owner, for not coming in early enough, and they caused the problem by not getting it looked at soon enough. But it is a flaw on the part of the manufacturer. I think Ford drivetrains are tough, but not the beds on pickups, thin sheet metal, easily gouged, but if it does not put a hole through the bed, it is just ugly, not a deal breaker. Toyota has strong beds and ride like cars, last a long time, very fuel efficient, both have creature comforts galore.

The question did not include GM, they make a good product, but as a truck, they are not that strong, I always consider them Monte Carlos with a bed on them, drive nice, do nice for home depot shopping, but not a real truck. And yes, they do last too, and have a good fuel management system, so get really decent mileage for what they are. 20 mpg out of a v8 truck is good stuff. Thing is, that is what most people use them for, so, no harm, no foul. In a business environment where a Truck is used hard, loaded hard, I will give Ford the nod, unless it is a diesel, and watch out for certain v8 gas motors, nothing wrong with the motor, but changing spark plugs at 100k, as recommended by ford, the spark plugs break on removal, and have to be extracted by laborious means.  Some transmission issues too.

It is usually not a good idea to buy new, but it depends. If you put 200k on a vehicle, buy one with 30k and enjoy the depreciation, and lower entry cost. Me I usually own a vehicle for 10 years, so I buy new, and keep them up, and trade off later. Except for passenger cars, I buy old Volvo's that need major work, but are in really good condition, I have 2, 940 Volvo's that have 150k and 208k respectively, they look good and drive good, I would drive either 2k miles to a destination, and back,  comfortable and reliable, last a lifetime and infinitely repairable.

My current truck is a Dodge, 2001 ram 1500, have 108k on it, I have replaced the water pump, changed the oil and filter regularly, air filter, but have not even changed the plugs yet.  I will soon ??? It was cheap, and has served me well, now 8 years old, the only complaint is the dash has begun to break up, really badly. But it has not cost me much. I did replace the transmission fluid with synthetic and the rear end fluid with pure synthetic as these were known problems, and have had no issues.

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Re: Ford vs. Toyota
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2009, 09:58:50 PM »
I bought a '91 Ranger new (4 miles on the odometer), it was a no frills, power nothing, manual transmission 4-cylinder. the Clutch-plate snapped at 30,000 miles. OOPS, sorry your extended warranty don't cover manual transmission parts $400 ($950 if I had Ford do it). Fuel pump went out at 40,000 (Japanese replacement part lasted till I got rid of it) $150. Went through 4 clutches, drive-shaft was bent cause they put the wrong U-joint on it ("Oh, hell Charlie, it's Friday just beat on it till it stays"), 2 rear gear boxes, and Asmodeus knows how many screws, sensors, miles of duct tape, etc.

The truck ran 336,000 miles before the thingy popped out of the trans and the odometer and I couldn't get the miles anymore (That was about 8 months before the clutch went out for the fourth time and I donated it). The motor ran as well and as smooth as the day I bought it. I figured it would when the plate popped of the motor one day and the one underneath said NISSAN and all the writing was in Japanese.
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