podcast 7/7/09 Public v private

[3 gun]

Just listened to the podcast and this thought came to me.

The way I see it if you have a store/hotel/restaurant open to the public you are not private property any longer.

My home, factory or a club based on a membership can be private and set any rules they like, but once you open your doors to the public at large, you no longer have that ability. (And the truth is even those are highly restricted. Try and have a factory that will not hire based on age, race or gender.)
 
When an area open to the public, like McDonalds, can post and enforce a no jews, no women or no blacks policy then they should be able to post a no guns sign.
 
It's the same Constitution and BoR that prevents discrimination based on age, race, religion and sex, why then can I be discriminated against because I carry a gun? 

Has this challenge to no carry laws ever been tried? Just a thought. Am I crazy?
 

[TAB]

I disagree, my shop, my rules, don't like it, don't come into my shop.

you can't compare something you can not change( race) with something you can.

it really makes you look foolish.

I also see no diffrence between me telling you something, and it posted clearly in sign form.

[tombogan03884]

 3 Gun, pay no attention to that fool with the sexy avatar. TAB is just jealous because he can't get a CCW without bribing the sheriff.
He, like far to many in America just can't get his pointy little California head around that "shall not be infringed" thing.

[TAB]

3 Gun, pay no attention to that fool with the sexy avatar. TAB is just jealous because he can't get a CCW without bribing the sheriff.
He, like far to many in America just can't get his pointy little California head around that "shall not be infringed" thing.

the goverment is NOT infringing your rights.  as a person I can infringe apon those rights.  Don't like it, to bad.

[fightingquaker13]

3 Gun, pay no attention to that fool with the sexy avatar. TAB is just jealous because he can't get a CCW without bribing the sheriff.
He, like far to many in America just can't get his pointy little California head around that "shall not be infringed" thing.

Actually Tom, even though I ultimately agree with you rather than TAB on this issue, you owe him an apology for your tone. The fact is that the RTKBA AND the right to property are both fundamental. This issue has been argued to death, but both sides start out with good principles on their sides. After all, why do we have the right to guns if not to defend our lives AND property? If we don't control it, do we own it? These aren't questions to take lightly. Ultimately I do think the the right to SD trumps property rights, but just like I never cussed in front of my grandmother, I try not to carry a gun in someone's home or business where it is unwelcome unless I wouldn't feel safe otherwise. Again I think an apology is in order.
FQ13

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[ericire12]

Here we go again

[tumblebug]

FO  fq

[tombogan03884]

the goverment is NOT infringing your rights.  as a person I can infringe apon those rights.  Don't like it, to bad.

Oh really ? Try refusing to hire based on race, age etc. It will cost you.

FQ, I don't much care what you think. I would think you had figured that out by now.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2609.0

[fightingquaker13]

FO  fq

Nice. Yet again, a well argued, cogent and logical argument tumble bug. Can you do better? God knows you can't do worse. Its not that I mind your disagreement, its just that I wonder why an opposing opinion makes you not wish to challenge it in a way that will either convince others to your side, and maybe convert your opponent, but to respond with school yard insults. Grow up TB.
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[TAB]

your talking about things that can not be changed.  having a weapon on you is a choice.  Just like you have a choice, rather or not you enter my place of biz.  if you don't like my rules, go some place else.



 but lets for get all that.

federal property= no guns by law, federal crime, etc etc

so if the federal govemernt can infringe your rights, why can't I?


CCW is a new idea, so is "shall no be infringed" meaning you can't regulate anything.