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What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« on: July 09, 2009, 04:46:27 PM »
I think my poor Walther PPK/S was violated. Just took it out of the box. The de-cocking lever has been changed. It is about as dirty as I've ever seen it. There is NO oil, lube, to be found anywhere.

There is now play between the upper slide and lower frame, where there was none before. Even with no lube anywhere, it feels as if it has been shot 5000 times.

The actual firing pin stop block is machined with larger "U" shaped tangs that slide up around the firing pin in a more substantial manner than the original. Solves the AD chance which led to the recall.

Service slip says polished feed ramp and barrel, but I won't be able to tell until I clean the damn thing. There are fresh machine marks on the frame under the barrel toward the forward portion of the slide, where it appears they put an ever so slight bevel.

And the slide rails for the upper have been made not so razor sharp.

With snap caps, the single action trigger take up seems more prevalent and "loose".

Double action seems like it always was.

My poor Walther.... :-\ (Actually, I hope they shot it up good), I need to trust it.

Well, I sticking to my previous post.... I'm going to clean it, and run the hell out of it. It feels more like the Interarms version, with its little bit of "slop/play". Good. Walther fans rave about their Interarms version, maybe S&W made it even better.

Range report this weekend with pics.
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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 04:51:39 PM »
Not knocking your little friend TW but it's just another reason to avoid S&W service issues.  They seem to be getting worse, not better.  My SIL has sworn off their auto's as have I.

Good luck with it.  We know you've been waiting long enough...

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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 05:40:41 PM »

 Walther fans rave about their Interarms version, maybe S&W made it even better.


Sorry to hear about S&W's poor service.  YAY however for Interarms!  Can't wait to see your range pics.

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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 05:48:48 PM »
I don't know if it was poor service, they had to recall all PPK/S since 2002, that is a boxcar or 5 of pistols.

My other S&W pistols, a 1911, and an M+P have had NO issues to even involve customer service. They always return my emails, and am not knocking them at all.

My Walther was "tight" when I got it, but had NO problems. I think they acknowledged some of the customer feedback "issues" like the razor sharp slide edge, and the de-cocker feeling like bone on bone.

Like other pistols (that shall still stay unnamed), they made a bunch, realized a safety issue, and a couple of other things, and took care of it.

They got hats and mags,.....but if it runs like it did, I'll trust it, carry it, and feel comfortable in knowing the Cor-Bon DPX it holds will work if called upon..

I'll let you all know.
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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 06:01:17 PM »
I'm still waiting to get my 75th anniversary model back.
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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 06:20:38 PM »
I'm still waiting to get my 75th anniversary model back.

Sent it in late April, emailed response was 8 to 12 weeks.  So that was a little less.

75th anniversary?

Nice...

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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 06:32:32 PM »
Yep. Engraved and gold inlaid.  :)  Number 11XX out of 1500. I sure hope they didn't screw it up.
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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 08:22:41 PM »
TW.............did S&W place a punch mark on the frame?  The original recall explained that a single punch mark would be placed on the frame to clearly show that the recall had been done. 

I always thought it was a bad idea for S&W to use a single punch mark and not a specific unique indicator, perhaps a small logo, as anyone who learns this information (which was published with a photo during the original recall) could just place the punch mark himself.  It could make the gun more attractive to an unsuspecting buyer if he wanted to buy the Walther with the added "advantage" of having had the recall fix performed.... Just wondering what marking they ultimately went with, if any?
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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 09:41:52 PM »
TW.............did S&W place a punch mark on the frame?  The original recall explained that a single punch mark would be placed on the frame to clearly show that the recall had been done. 

With the hammer down, there is a small drill press mark on the top of the tang. on the frame. Considering the de-cocker, and "safety issue" were on the upper slide portion, there are no marks.

Theoretically, one could take an old upper to another frame with the mark, and still have a pistol with the same problem that led to the recall.

Granted, NO news of any AD's that I can find are documented. Kinda like the LCP or SR9, they just deemed it important enough to recall.

It has been "loosened up" as my previous posts stated, it was tight as a drum when first purchased. The mark is there and the test drive is coming.





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Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: What Did They Do To My Walther PPK/S? It's Back.
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 09:46:46 PM »
Please shoot it this week and let me know.  I've got mine ready to ship...but had that SR9 experience and am reluctant to send in my PPK.  What you just described...makes me more resolved not to send it in.  The slack in the frame spooks me...I don't want slack.  I don't want an AD...but I don't want something I am disappointed in that I can't even look at. 

The AD...what was the condition(s) that cause an AD in the PPK? 

Thanks,
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