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Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« on: July 10, 2009, 11:14:20 AM »
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-07-09-smoking_N.htm
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WASHINGTON — Pentagon health experts are urging Defense Secretary Robert Gates to ban the use of tobacco by troops and end its sale on military property, a change that could dramatically alter a culture intertwined with smoking.

Jack Smith, head of the Pentagon's office of clinical and program policy, says he will recommend that Gates adopt proposals by a federal study that cites rising tobacco use and higher costs for the Pentagon and Department of Veterans Affairs as reasons for the ban.

The study by the Institute of Medicine, requested by the VA and Pentagon, calls for a phased-in ban over a period of years, perhaps up to 20. "We'll certainly be taking that recommendation forward," Smith says.

A tobacco ban would confront a military culture, the report says, in which "the image of the battle-weary soldier in fatigues and helmet, fighting for his country, has frequently included his lit cigarette."

Also, the report said, troops worn out by repeated deployments often rely on cigarettes as a "stress reliever." The study found that tobacco use in the military increased after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan began.
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Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said the department supports a smoke-free military "and believes it is achievable." She declined to elaborate on any possible ban.

One in three servicemembers use tobacco, the report says, compared with one in five adult Americans. The heaviest smokers are soldiers and Marines, who have done most of the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the study says. About 37% of soldiers use tobacco and 36% of Marines. Combat veterans are 50% more likely to use tobacco than troops who haven't seen combat.

Tobacco use costs the Pentagon $846 million a year in medical care and lost productivity, says the report, which used older data. The Department of Veterans Affairs spends up to $6 billion in treatments for tobacco-related illnesses, says the study, which was released late last month.

Along with a phased-in ban, the report recommends requiring new officers and enlisted personnel to be tobacco-free, eliminating tobacco use on military installations, ships and aircraft, expanding treatment programs and eliminating the sale of tobacco on military property. "Any tobacco use while in uniform should be prohibited," the study says.

The military complicates attempts to curb tobacco use by subsidizing tobacco products for troops who buy them at base exchanges and commissaries, says Kenneth Kizer, a committee member and architect of California's anti-tobacco program.

Seventy percent of profits from tobacco sales — $88 million in 2005 — pays for recreation and family support programs, the study stays.

Strong leadership could make the military tobacco-free in five to 10 years, Kizer says. President Obama, he says, could set an example for the military by ending his own smoking habit once and for all. Last month, Obama said he is "95% cured" but "there are times when I mess up" and smoke.
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 11:54:16 AM »
Leave our troops the F%$k alone you illegal alien, usurping, bastard (Thanks for the loan Tom).

If our guys or gals want a smoke in the field or need to light up after a long, bitch of a day then leave them alone.

Don't you dip sh%$s get that they are putting their lives on the line for us?

Back off Secretary Gates!!! >:(
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 12:07:38 PM »
Leave our troops the F%$k alone you illegal alien, usurping, bastard (Thanks for the loan Tom).

If our guys or gals want a smoke in the field or need to light up after a long, bitch of a day then leave them alone.

Don't you dip sh%$s get that they are putting their lives on the line for us?

Back off Secretary Gates!!! >:(



This is just a first step.  A national tobacco ban on EVERYbody will be required in order to cut expenses once Obamacare is the law of the land.
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 12:10:27 PM »


This is just a first step.  A national tobacco ban on EVERYbody will be required in order to cut expenses once Obamacare is the law of the land.

Yes, since it worked so well with booze and some drugs. Need to open up more Govt. enforcement jobs to get people back to work.

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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 12:11:25 PM »


This is just a first step.  A national tobacco ban on EVERYbody will be required in order to cut expenses once Obamacare is the law of the land.
I don't doubt that for a second.
We'll also pay higher Obama care rates if we eat fast food, don't hit the gym daily, have a disease, etc...........
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 12:15:14 PM »


This is just a first step.  A national tobacco ban on EVERYbody will be required in order to cut expenses once Obamacare is the law of the land.

What I think is funny about this is that they are trying to make them stop smoking so they can be healthier..... THEY ARE ON THE FRONT LINE WITH BULLETS WHIZZING BY THEIR HEADS, BUT HEY, LETS TRY TO REDUCE THE CHANCES THEY WILL GET CANCER 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. ::)

Nanny state indeed!
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 12:22:54 PM »
There is nothing in this world more dangerous than a reformed anything. Smokers, drinkers, what have have you. They think because they quit, everyone else can and should, prefferably now. I admire their resolve but still want to strangle them.
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 12:55:50 PM »
There is nothing in this world more dangerous than a reformed anything. Smokers, drinkers, what have have you. They think because they quit, everyone else can and should, prefferably now. I admire their resolve but still want to strangle them.
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Yet, Obama still smokes
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 01:58:35 PM »
Yet, Obama still smokes
He's still on the to strangle list. I'm sure a lot of W voters wound up feeling the same way. In all honesty though its probaly the bean counters at the VA that drove this though.
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Re: Obama: 'If I cant smoke, no one can!'
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 03:37:18 PM »
He's still on the to strangle list. I'm sure a lot of W voters wound up feeling the same way. In all honesty though its probaly the bean counters at the VA that drove this though.
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Doesn't matter, your boy the post turtle is still (and will remain) on the to strangle list.   ;D
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