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Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« on: July 12, 2009, 01:02:38 PM »
or does it frag?  It would be 9 or .40 FWIW. 

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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 01:17:10 PM »
In theory and general - No

However, there is always an exception to the "general."  I have seen it leave a big enough chunk to "splatter" a small hole in cardboard.  .40 s&w that made a hole about the size of a .22 or maybe slightly smaller.

Safety rules remain the same with this as any other ammo.
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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 01:23:46 PM »
Now that is a hell of a question.

I have shot and still shoot a ton of frangible ammo. I can't say enough good things about it. I think it is one of the best SD rounds out there. I have seen it tested a ton of different ways, but never on water. I would tend to think it would break up. It breaks up if you try to skip it off of steel. I think if there was enough force on the bullet to change it's direction then there would be enough force to break the bullet up when it hit the water.

It would also depend on the manufacturer and hardness of the bullet. You can use the same material in a bullet and make it so that it starts to break apart just by hitting drywall or if you "bake" it a little longer, get the same bullet, same material, to shoot through steel.
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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 01:26:10 PM »
 I would not rely on it breaking up. I don't know so better safe than sorry.

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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 04:32:40 PM »
I don't know either :(  That is why I asked  ;)

I don't care if there are small frags that ricochet a little, I just want my safe backstop to be a hundred yards +/- and not a mile+. 

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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 04:37:48 PM »
Depends on whether the water is hard or soft.





























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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 04:52:48 PM »
Depends on whether the water is hard or soft.


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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 09:54:29 PM »
Now that is a hell of a question.

I have shot and still shoot a ton of frangible ammo. I can't say enough good things about it. I think it is one of the best SD rounds out there. I have seen it tested a ton of different ways, but never on water. I would tend to think it would break up. It breaks up if you try to skip it off of steel. I think if there was enough force on the bullet to change it's direction then there would be enough force to break the bullet up when it hit the water.

It would also depend on the manufacturer and hardness of the bullet. You can use the same material in a bullet and make it so that it starts to break apart just by hitting drywall or if you "bake" it a little longer, get the same bullet, same material, to shoot through steel.
Which frangible do you shoot/prefer?
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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 10:06:36 PM »
I shoot ICC ammo (International Cartridge Corporation) or reload with their bullets.

Check them out www.iccammo.com or their online distributor www.frangiblebullets.com

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Any questions, just ask.

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Re: Does frangible ammo ricochet off water?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 10:13:01 PM »
I shoot ICC ammo (International Cartridge Corporation) or reload with their bullets.

Check them out www.iccammo.com or their online distributor www.frangiblebullets.com

They have a big match coming up this weekend, stop by.  ;D

Any questions, just ask.

Make sure you look at the videos with the ballistics gel.
Thanks, I'll give 'em a try.
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