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A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« on: July 18, 2009, 04:22:07 PM »
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Vote on Right to Carry Coming Soon
-- Please urge your Senators to vote YES!

Friday, July 17, 2009

A vote to protect your right to travel out-of-state with a firearm could come to a vote next week -- even as early as Monday!

Senators John Thune and David Vitter are the sponsors of S. 845 -- a bill that will establish concealed carry reciprocity amongst the several states.

Senators Thune and Vitter offered the bill as an amendment (#1618) to the Department of Defense authorization bill (H.R. 2647).

This provision will use the constitutional authority allowing Congress to enforce "full faith and credit" across the country, so that each state respects the "public acts, records, and judicial proceedings" of every other state (Article IV). 

The benefit of the Thune/Vitter legislation is that -- unlike other, competing measures -- it would protect the right of any U.S. citizen to carry out of state (regardless of whether he possesses a permit), as long as he is authorized to carry in his home state.  This is important because of states like Vermont and Alaska, where residents can carry concealed without prior approval or permission from the state... in other words, without a permit!

ACTION:  Please urge your Senators to vote YES on the Thune/Vitter concealed carry reciprocity amendment that will be offered to the Department of Defense authorization bill and NO on any modifying amendments.  This vote could come as early as Monday, so please act on this right away!

You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center to send your Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

Please support the Thune/Vitter amendment to the Department of Defense authorization bill. This amendment will protect the right of citizens to carry firearms outside of their home state without violating the rights of the other states. Thus, the reciprocity language masterfully protects the principle of federalism while also promoting Second Amendment rights.

A person's right to defend himself and his family should not end at the border of his state.

I urge you to vote for the Thune/Vitter concealed carry amendment and to oppose any modifying actions that seek to weaken their amendment.

Sincerely,


I don't know what the chances of this passing in this political climate, but my fingers are crossed. I wonder what the trade-offs are.

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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 04:23:53 PM »
Done, How long will it be before TAB get in here bitching about this ?

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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 04:33:54 PM »
Done

Thanks Fuz !!!
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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 04:35:45 PM »
Done, How long will it be before TAB get in here bitching about this ?
He seems awfully concerned about the States' rights. Even in the 10th Am, the last clause is, "or to the people." The second amendment obviously tells the states and the feds to back off of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The Constitution doesn't grant that right, it only guarantees it. The right is inherent to a free people. The fact that we've allowed the goblinment to require us to have a permit to carry is blasphemy.

I understand TAB's concern that people who carry have training, but the responsibility to act responsibly should be on the individual, not on the states who want to babysit the people.

The other night, I was surprised to hear a LEO say that people should be able to own any firearm and do whatever they want with them. When they act criminally or irresponsibly with those guns, then they'll be punished.

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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 04:45:46 PM »
He seems awfully concerned about the States' rights. Even in the 10th Am, the last clause is, "or to the people." The second amendment obviously tells the states and the feds to back off of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The Constitution doesn't grant that right, it only guarantees it. The right is inherent to a free people. The fact that we've allowed the goblinment to require us to have a permit to carry is blasphemy.

I understand TAB's concern that people who carry have training, but the responsibility to act responsibly should be on the individual, not on the states who want to babysit the people.

The other night, I was surprised to hear a LEO say that people should be able to own any firearm and do whatever they want with them. When they act criminally or irresponsibly with those guns, then they'll be punished.




Well put, and absolutely true.

In other words, punish the criminal, not the tool.
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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 05:29:14 PM »
Will send mine Monday morning.
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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 06:21:34 PM »

In other words, punish the criminal, not the tool.

Yes. Doesn't everything always come to that, when we talk about RKBA?

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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 06:53:10 PM »
Yes. Doesn't everything always come to that, when we talk about RKBA?

Will we be any better when we hang BO and Pelosi if we can"t get Soros as well. We will be hanging "tools".
Will any one mind ? Except for BO and Pelosi  I don't think so.  ;D

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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 08:41:05 PM »
Will we be any better when we hang BO and Pelosi if we can"t get Soros as well. We will be hanging "tools".
Will any one mind ? Except for BO and Pelosi  I don't think so.  ;D

Sadly there are still a lot of people spewing "it's Bush's fault" and "give bho time". One bright spot is that my uber-liberal friend is now saying she will have to vote her pocketbook in the next election. Having drunk deeply of the kool-aid, she may not be able to, but we'll see.
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Re: A Snowball's Chance in Hell?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 04:13:11 PM »
I'm hearing rumors that the families of the Virginia Tech victims have been "love bombed" by the Brady people, urging them to make a difference for their lost loved ones and to urge their legislators not to support this. I deeply feel for these people, but we'll never know if a CCW might have made a difference there.

 

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