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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2009, 09:22:52 PM »
I would love to see an American who is not hyphenated on the court.  I'm at least two breeds of American Indian, Irish, English, French and who knows what else.  The people who have a strong hyphenated allegiance to a particular race are choosing their race over being an American.

Pretty simple...the best person should be on the court...if we are in fact the United States of America there is no place for trying advance hyphenated anything other than patriotic-American.
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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2009, 11:04:14 AM »
I would love to see an American who is not hyphenated on the court.  I'm at least two breeds of American Indian, Irish, English, French and who knows what else.  The people who have a strong hyphenated allegiance to a particular race are choosing their race over being an American.

Pretty simple...the best person should be on the court...if we are in fact the United States of America there is no place for trying advance hyphenated anything other than patriotic-American.

I define my patriotism for my country by my service and not by what I call myself. I will not define/judge someone else by whatever they wish to be identified with.  I will gladly compare my patriotism with you any day.
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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2009, 12:38:35 PM »
 I don't want to get into an argument here. as I think both of you are good guys. Would you both be willing to accept what Teddy Roosevelt said ?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/troosevelt.asp

Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2009, 07:51:02 PM »
I would love to see an American who is not hyphenated on the court.  I'm at least two breeds of American Indian, Irish, English, French and who knows what else.  The people who have a strong hyphenated allegiance to a particular race are choosing their race over being an American.

Pretty simple...the best person should be on the court...if we are in fact the United States of America there is no place for trying advance hyphenated anything other than patriotic-American.
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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2009, 07:55:02 PM »
Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

Teddy also carried a BIG stick..... ;) Loved his Winchesters...
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2009, 08:47:31 PM »
Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

Teddy also carried a BIG stick..... ;) Loved his Winchesters...

I guess, He bought his Model 1895's by the CASE ;D

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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2009, 02:07:26 PM »
I agree with what Roosevelt said.  But, just because a person says he is Mexican-American, Japanese-American, German-American, Irish-American does not mean that they have divided loyalties.  I choose Mexican-American because I am proud of my heritage, period.  That stupidity of being paranoid  because a person uses heritage in front of American is what caused concentration camps in the US during WWII.  It also caused the arresting of American citizens and sending them to other countries because of not being white.  That happened to Americans of Mexican heritage during WWII.  There was resentment of German-Americans but do not know of them being sent to Germany or sent to concentration camps. 

I'll say it again.  I am an American of Mexican heritage.  If I choose to call myself "American" or "Mexican-American" is my choice and my right.  So get a life and call yourself whatever you wish and don't worry or get upset by how I or other choose to identify ourselves.

I was born in New Mexico, makes me an American, third-generation citizen. 
United States Marine Corps, four years with Honorable Discharge.  Infantry and Supply.
United States Marine Corps Reserve, six years, Honorable Discharge.  Infantry, Recruiter (active duty) and Recon.
Federal Officer, 6 years, undercover, which is why I do not name the agency.
National Defense, US Govt, 18 years.
Retired from Govt service.
If that does not define my Americanism, then KMA. 
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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2009, 02:51:57 PM »
"<snip>. We need more Hispanics in government anyway. <snip>
I would love to see a Hispanic on the Court but she is the wrong person.  <snip>

I don't doubt your intentions or willingness to sacrifice, but there is a difference between someone telling what their heritage is and advocation.  We don't need more of any particular race in government and I don't care what the race is of whoever is on the Court.  I want a conservative 2nd Ammendment supporter and if their daddy is from Mars and their momma is from Venus that's fine with me; I just want an American on the court, not someone who makes it a point to say they are proud they are a Martian-Venusivian.....it may be where their gene pool came from, but they are here now and advocating a person from one's heritage over another just because of heritage is racist bias.

If you don't see how having pride in being separate in race and advocating the same in front of others is interpreted by being in front of just being an American, maybe someone else here can explain it to you.  It seems to be a fairly straightforward concept to me.

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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2009, 07:18:27 PM »
I don't doubt your intentions or willingness to sacrifice, but there is a difference between someone telling what their heritage is and advocation.  We don't need more of any particular race in government and I don't care what the race is of whoever is on the Court.  I want a conservative 2nd Ammendment supporter and if their daddy is from Mars and their momma is from Venus that's fine with me; I just want an American on the court, not someone who makes it a point to say they are proud they are a Martian-Venusivian.....it may be where their gene pool came from, but they are here now and advocating a person from one's heritage over another just because of heritage is racist bias.

If you don't see how having pride in being separate in race and advocating the same in front of others is interpreted by being in front of just being an American, maybe someone else here can explain it to you.  It seems to be a fairly straightforward concept to me.



The same goes for you.  It is simple and straightforward.  You call yourself whatever you want and I'll respect it.  Request the same from you.  If you can't, too bad.
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Re: RINO ALERT!!
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2009, 08:38:24 PM »
 Did you guy's consider that if you were to forget about what your ancestors were you would not being having this dispute ?
DM, You Know that no one here has more respect for your service than I do, but the hyphen thing is the same sort of thinking that has the former Yugoslavians killing each other over stuff that happened 600 years ago.
Same thing with Northern Ireland, "Are you a Protestant Ulster man or a Catholic Ulster man ?" What's wrong with being an IRISH Ulster man?

 

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