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Re: ATF to Montana 'Federal law supercedes state law'
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2009, 08:19:05 AM »
 States Rights were lost before 1861 and that issue was settled in 1865, the federal government rules the subservient states and its people.  When the states have the ability to enforce their sovereignty they will be able to make laws the federal government doesn't agree with.
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Re: ATF to Montana 'Federal law supercedes state law'
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2009, 02:25:30 PM »
States Rights were lost before 1861 and that issue was settled in 1865, the federal government rules the subservient states and its people.  When the states have the ability to enforce their sovereignty they will be able to make laws the federal government doesn't agree with.

Even if federal law DOES supersede state law, the Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Far more ambiguous language in other amendments has been used to justify everything from abortion to Flag burning. It is still the FEDERAL Govt. that is not in compliance with the law.

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Re: ATF to Montana 'Federal law supercedes state law'
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2009, 09:57:23 PM »
Unfortunately what will happen is 1st blood in my opinion and the states response, now that some of our states have given notice, then if the fed responds in attacks, then it is up to the state to ARREST them, PROSECUTE, AND IMPRISON THEM.  That is the real notice. The feds don't have enough to even come close to our local LE's and prosecuters, but WE all know we have to get on the same page as a state. National guard is the arm of the Governor, but can be controlled by the fed if the Governor allows, if otherwise then the posse comitatus applies, and it's anybodies bet how that will go, if it is local troops, then probably ok, but if out of state troops, who knows, but there are a lot of veterans from Iraq, and the middle east who are now home that I personally will count on. Don't want it, but if it happens then WE MUST FIGHT BACK. It is our state after all.
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Re: ATF to Montana 'Federal law supercedes state law'
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2009, 10:34:50 PM »
Unfortunately what will happen is 1st blood in my opinion and the states response, now that some of our states have given notice, then if the fed responds in attacks, then it is up to the state to ARREST them, PROSECUTE, AND IMPRISON THEM.  That is the real notice. The feds don't have enough to even come close to our local LE's and prosecuters, but WE all know we have to get on the same page as a state. National guard is the arm of the Governor, but can be controlled by the fed if the Governor allows, if otherwise then the posse comitatus applies, and it's anybodies bet how that will go, if it is local troops, then probably ok, but if out of state troops, who knows, but there are a lot of veterans from Iraq, and the middle east who are now home that I personally will count on. Don't want it, but if it happens then WE MUST FIGHT BACK. It is our state after all.

Don't put to much faith in Posse Comitatus, it has been severely modified and weakened over the last 30 years. First to allow military participation in the "War on Drugs" later in response to 9-11.

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