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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2009, 05:56:38 PM »
"Those that can, do!"

"Those that can't, teach!"


I was a grown man by the time I went to college and honestly, the last decent teacher I had was in High School, Class of 1975.

Most, if not all of my professors were morons so forgive me if I don't have a high opinion of educators in the last 34 years.  My latest experience with educators were the incompetant dipshits that educated my little girl and thankfully, she was able to come out with at least a modicum of knowledge and the ability to know where to look for the answers.  Had I the resources to send her to the private sector, I would have done so.

I could read before I was five years old so for that, I thank my parents, not my kindergarten teacher!

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2009, 06:48:25 PM »
Don't dis him too easily Ichiban.
If the cop is to be believed, he behaved like an A hole and deserves to be writing a check to the city of Cambridge and making a public apology. His scholarship, in distinction to his politics, is solid however. The guy does do a good job at research. BTW, when did teaching stop being a "real job"? Just askin'. BTW, if you can read this, you might want to thank a teacher.8)
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Yes he should, but he never will because HE'S BLACK, and everybody in America knows that a black can be as much of an asshole as they please and just like Maxine Waters slapping that cop, it's always some one else's fault. Just like Obama "I'm turd color, if you don't vote for my anti American bullsh!t your a racist. It's PAST time to end affirmative action and start holding these arrogant self rightous porch monkeys to the same standard as everybody else.  The real racists in America are these militant "victims",

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090721/ap_on_re_us/us_harvard_scholar_analysis

 It took less than a day for the arrest of Henry Louis Gates to become racial lore. When one of America's most prominent black intellectuals winds up in handcuffs, it's not just another episode of profiling — it's a signpost on the nation's bumpy road to equality.

The news was parsed and Tweeted, rued and debated. This was, after all Henry "Skip" Gates: Summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Yale. MacArthur "genius grant" recipient. Acclaimed historian, Harvard professor and PBS documentarian. One of Time magazine's "25 Most Influential Americans" in 1997. Holder of 50 honorary degrees.

If this man can be taken away by police officers from the porch of his own home, what does it say about the treatment that average blacks can expect in 2009?

Earl Graves Jr., CEO of the company that publishes Black Enterprise magazine, was once stopped by police during his train commute to work, dressed in a suit and tie.

"My case took place back in 1995, and here we are 14 years later dealing with the same madness," he said Tuesday. "Barack Obama being the president has meant absolutely nothing to white law enforcement officers. Zero. So I have zero confidence that (Gates' case) will lead to any change whatsoever."

The 58-year-old professor had returned from a trip to China last Thursday afternoon and found the front door of his Cambridge, Mass., home stuck shut. Gates entered the back door, forced open the front door with help from a car service driver, and was on the phone with the Harvard leasing company when a white police sergeant arrived.

Gates and the sergeant gave differing accounts of what happened next. But for many people, that doesn't matter.

They don't care that Gates was charged not with breaking and entering, but with disorderly conduct after repeatedly demanding the sergeant's name and badge number. It doesn't matter whether Gates was yelling, or accused Sgt. James Crowley of being racist, or that all charges were dropped Tuesday.

All they see is pure, naked racial profiling.

"Under any account ... all of it is totally uncalled for," said Graves.

"It never would have happened — imagine a white professor, a distinguished white professor at Harvard, walking around with a cane, going into his own house, being harassed or stopped by the police. It would never happen."

Racial profiling became a national issue in the 1990s, when highway police on major drug delivery routes were accused of stopping drivers simply for being black. Lawsuits were filed, studies were commissioned, data was analyzed. "It is wrong, and we will end it in America," President George W. Bush said in 2001.

Yet for every study that concluded police disproportionately stop, search and arrest minorities, another expert came to a different conclusion. "That's always going to be the case," Greg Ridgeway, who has a Ph.D in statistics and studies racial profiling for the RAND research group, said on Monday. "You're never going to be able to (statistically) prove racial profiling. ... There's always a plausible explanation."

Federal legislation to ban racial profiling has languished since being introduced in 2007 by a dozen Democratic senators, including then-Sen. Barack Obama.

U.S. Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., said that was partly because "when you look at statistics, and you're trying to prove the extent, the information comes back that there's not nearly as much (profiling) as we continue to experience."

But Davis has no doubt that profiling is real: He says he was stopped while driving in Chicago in 2007 for no reason other than the fact he is black. Police gave him a ticket for swerving over the center line; a judge said the ticket didn't make sense and dismissed it.

"Trying to reach this balance of equity, equal treatment, equal protection under the law, equal understanding, equal opportunity, is something that we will always be confronted with. We may as well be prepared for it," he said.

Amid the indignation over Gates' case, a few people pointed out that he may have violated the cardinal rule of avoiding arrest: Do not antagonize the cops.

The police report said that Gates yelled at the officer, refused to calm down and behaved in a "tumultuous" manner. Gates said he simply asked for the officer's identification, followed him into his porch when the information was not forthcoming, and was arrested for no reason. But something about being asked to prove that you live in your own home clearly struck a nerve — both for Gates and his defenders.

"You feel violated, embarrassed, not sure what is taking place, especially when you haven't done anything," said Graves of his own experience, when police made him face the wall and frisked him in Grand Central Station in New York City. "You feel shocked, then you realize what's happening, and then you feel it's a violation of everything you stand for."

And that this should happen to "Skip" Gates — the unblemished embodiment of President Obama's recent admonition to black America not to search for handouts or favors, but to "seize our own future, each and every day" — shook many people to the core.

Wrote Lawrence Bobo, Gates' Harvard colleague, who picked his friend up from jail: "Ain't nothing post-racial about the United States of America."


  Hey Gates, get a clue ; 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8&feature=PlayList&p=43CCC6FA37E83BF2&index=0

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2009, 06:57:18 PM »
FQ, Tenure is nothing but job security for the incompetent.
If teachers are so great (I could read before I started school as well ) then" how come Johnny can't read",spell, construct a coherent sentence, do math problems with out a calculator, and knows jack shit about History or science ?
Do those in your field do ANYTHING other than socialist indoctrination ? You DAMN SURE are teaching worth a crap. Especially considering what a bunch of over paid, self righteous prima Donna's We are stuck with in the industry.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 08:11:08 PM »
Don't dis him too easily Ichiban.
If the cop is to be believed, he behaved like an A hole and deserves to be writing a check to the city of Cambridge and making a public apology. His scholarship, in distinction to his politics, is solid however. The guy does do a good job at research. BTW, when did teaching stop being a "real job"? Just askin'. BTW, if you can read this, you might want to thank a teacher.8)
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If you voted for Obama, you might want to thank your loony liberal colleagues.



*P.S. Home schooled people read rather well.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 08:18:52 PM »
FQ, Tenure is nothing but job security for the incompetent.
If teachers are so great (I could read before I started school as well ) then" how come Johnny can't read",spell, construct a coherent sentence, do math problems with out a calculator, and knows jack shit about History or science ?
Do those in your field do ANYTHING other than socialist indoctrination ? You DAMN SURE are teaching worth a crap. Especially considering what a bunch of over paid, self righteous prima Donna's We are stuck with in the industry.

Two words, Tom. Parents and practice. You're a machinist and a father. I don't need to tell you this. I can lecture you until I'm blue in the face about how to operate a machine. If you don't practice, eg do your home work, its wasted breath. No one can expect a kid to be self motivating. thats what parents are for. To reward when they are diligent and to kick their asses when they aren't. Without that support a thousand teachers aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. As a machinst you know that if you are given quality materials, that with diligense and learned skill, you can produce a good product. If you are given cheap pot metal, its garbage in and garbage out. It might not be PC to say this, but its the damn truth. Don't blame the teachers; blame the sperm doner dads, the overworked single mothers, the permissive (I'll never be like my own parents who kicked my ass till I got it toghther hippies) and the rest. it may not take a village to raise a child, but it does take parents who give a damn, and no teacher can make up for their absence.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2009, 08:32:19 PM »
If you voted for Obama, you might want to thank your loony liberal colleagues.



*P.S. Home schooled people read rather well.

And they can spell diligence.   ;D

As for FQ going on about Kids and home work, that's just self defensive bullsh!t. Schools are minimizing homework because the poor overworked kiddies have to carry home 2 or 3 books each night and it cuts into they "social interaction".  Teachers just don't want to correct their papers.
If FQ's whole defense wasn't bullsh!t, then how come the students motivated enough to get into college all have to take a remedial English class ? Obvious answer is the teachers are sitting on their lazy tenured asses and not doing their job.
And don't start on that "discipline" crap either, teachers would not have that problem if they spent more time on their subject and less time on the "sanctity of dissent", that's a problem these liberal slackers brought on themselves.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 08:41:06 PM »
He violated Chris Rock's Rule #5 & 6, on how NOT to get your ass kicked/arrested by the police.

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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 08:51:07 PM »
And they can spell diligence.   ;D

As for FQ going on about Kids and home work, that's just self defensive bullsh!t. Schools are minimizing homework because the poor overworked kiddies have to carry home 2 or 3 books each night and it cuts into they "social interaction".  Teachers just don't want to correct their papers.
If FQ's whole defense wasn't bullsh!t, then how come the students motivated enough to get into college all have to take a remedial English class ? Obvious answer is the teachers are sitting on their lazy tenured asses and not doing their job.
And don't start on that "discipline" crap either, teachers would not have that problem if they spent more time on their subject and less time on the "sanctity of dissent", that's a problem these liberal slackers brought on themselves.
Tom
I'm not trying to make a political point, just trying, as one craftsman to another to let you know something. I spend about 4-5 hours on research on every 1 hour lecture I give. I spend weeks putting togther a syllabus, trying to find as many articles and book chapters as I can to allow the studnts to buy a $50 kinko's packet rather than three or four seventy dollar books. I assign three 5-7 page take home essays rather than multiple choice exams even in intro classes where I have 400 students, and yes thats 2,000 pages for me to read. Say what you want, but I make it a point of pride to give my students their money's worth. I also give them my home phone number, have them over for dinner, and will call them if they haven't been showing up. I take pride in my work Tom. I hope you do as well.
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Re: No Racism in America, No siree.
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*P.S. Home schooled people read rather well.


 oh me, me, me , pick me..... I'm home schooled.... oh yeah, 98% of my misspelled words are from 2 much drunk.... u no..

actually, yes, I am home schooled. My name is Darrin and I'm an engineer.
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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2009, 09:09:10 PM »

 oh me, me, me , pick me..... I'm home schooled.... oh yeah, 98% of my misspelled words are from 2 much drunk.... u no..

actually, yes, I am home schooled. My name is Darrin and I'm an engineer.
Dude, if you and Haz don't lay off the Pisco, TW and I WILL drive up there and deliver you to M'lette for punishment! >:( Of course, that might be kind of fun. ;D (sorry Marshall).
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