Author Topic: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle  (Read 2291 times)

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NYPD anti-gun zealotry extends to flintlocks

Brooklyn resident Michael Littlejohn has the fanatically anti-gun Bloomberg administration pegged. From Joseph Goldstein of the Daily News:

    "This is the last legal gun that you can have without registration in New York," Littlejohn said. "And yet Mayor Bloomberg is driven crazy by my flintlock gun - the one that won the American Revolution."

It seems Mr. Littlejohn had the gall to order a custom-made vintage rifle replica. And the "Only Ones" Bloomberg does trust with guns are intent on bullying him into obtaining a license for it.

But here's the thing--as defined in New York City Administrative Code - Title 10 Public Safety:

    § 10–305 Exemptions. The sections requiring rifle and shotgun permits and certificates and prohibiting the possession or disposition of assault weapons shall not apply as follows:

    b. Antiques and ornaments. The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to antique rifles and shotguns which are incapable of being fired or discharged or which do not fire fixed ammunition, or those weapons manufactured prior to eighteen hundred ninety-four and those weapons whose design was patented and whose commercial manufacture commenced prior to eighteen hundred ninety-four and whose manufacture continued after eighteen hundred ninety-four without any substantial alteration in design or function, and for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available and are possessed as curiosities or ornaments or for their historical significance and value...

We learn the cops found out about Littlejohn's purchase when he left a receipt at a Staples copy center. Wouldn't it be nice to find out who the enuretic authority-worshiping snitch is, if for no other reason than to put the same public spotlight on them that they felt justified to anonymously put on a fellow citizen?

And why are the cops still busting his chops when the law seems clear?

    The lead detective on the case told Littlejohn's lawyer that he had orders "from higher-ups" to pursue the case...

Why Littlejohn was giving them the time of day is proof that he's sincere, has nothing to hide, and is correct in insisting on having his rights observed. But as we've noted before, we have nothing to gain and much to lose by doing so--see the video embedded at the end of this article. And neither did the gun maker, particularly one in Tennessee. He should have told them where to go.

Here's how you deal with this:

What's the name of "the lead detective"? What's the name of the "higher-ups" who are abusing their authority to enforce an agenda of prejudice rather than the law?

They can issue a summons? It seems Littlejohn could start issuing legal demands of his own, including a demand for them to prove their lawful authority to pursue this, except for one major obstacle:

    Lawyer Joyce David...represented Littlejohn until it became too expensive...

Leviathan can throw unlimited resources at an individual until he breaks. That's evidenced by the startling admission that police "sat down this month with the Tennessee blacksmith who forged the rifle."

How much money does NYC have to throw around at outrageous extra-legal vendettas like this? Who went to Tennessee? Who ordered them? Let's see all the travel expense receipts--gas, hotel, meals...

Particularly at a time when Furious Mike is issuing press releases claiming:

    With the nation's economy in recession - and New York at the epicenter of the crisis - our tax revenues plummeted.

His solution?

    The best course of action for the long haul is to continue to be fiscally responsible...

True, the Littlejohn investigation isn't going to break the bank. But it is indicative of a city that will squander public safety financial and manpower resources just to bully a citizen. Maybe they have too much, and should return some of the funds?

We're told Littlejohn on his own hasn't got the clout "to make the NYPD retreat." I'd love to see an outfit with the resources who do, say folks like the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund, come to this man's aid, and publicly knock the bully on his tail.

One last item: When you go to the Daily News article I used as the source for this column, be sure and take the poll. You just have to shake your head in wonder at the slave mentality that voted "No. Since he does not have a license, the police have a right to take it away."
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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 05:35:35 PM »
The article clearly states that it's a "vintage rifle replica."

Give me a break. Don't you guys have anything better to do. What......there's no more real crime in N.Y.C.?
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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 05:59:14 PM »
Nannie Bloomie is a late bloomer.

About 8 years ago, right before I departed the people's republik of illinois, I was privy to an order sheet that came down from the then Superintendent of Police for the city of Dickie Daley. The gist of the order was that if any Chicago PD member were to come across any weapon of caliber .50 or larger, they were to confiscate it as an assault weapon. Period.

No law, no city ordinance, simply a fiat from the Supt. This order had no exemptions, and thus of course applied to muskets of all sizes and shapes with a caliber over .50 - whether flintlock, matchlock or percussion cap. Didn't seem to matter.
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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 06:12:03 PM »
Nannie Bloomie is a late bloomer.

About 8 years ago, right before I departed the people's republik of illinois, I was privy to an order sheet that came down from the then Superintendent of Police for the city of Dickie Daley. The gist of the order was that if any Chicago PD member were to come across any weapon of caliber .50 or larger, they were to confiscate it as an assault weapon. Period.

No law, no city ordinance, simply a fiat from the Supt. This order had no exemptions, and thus of course applied to muskets of all sizes and shapes with a caliber over .50 - whether flintlock, matchlock or percussion cap. Didn't seem to matter.

I bet they really were able to cut down on the gang crime once they got those evil muskets off the streets. ::)
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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 10:04:25 PM »
Last time I checked, gang bangers, couldn't even spell flintlock, let alone know how to load one.....

Geez,...rumor has it Bloomberg is facing a rising opposition in his upcoming Mayoral election...

We'll see,......Even the chief New Yorker, along with Chucky Schumer are running off citizens like something out of a movie,.....

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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 06:01:07 AM »
Hey guys...don't you know that it doesn't matter what the law says since the Fascists gained control of government?  Hey, if they say it is a marshmallow, it's a marshmallow despite the fact that it looks, feels and drains soda water like a bottle of pop...don't you get it?   Old laws that don't conform to their new thinking just cause them to say what was legal is no longer what it was, but is what it is they don't like and.....voila'...the new order is in place, no muss no fuss.

Everyone knows that an SUV is a weapon of mass destruction.
Everyone knows the internal combustion engine is a planet killer.
We know Hazcat's pool is a coon relief device.
Onrecess is a fire plug.

And so on....
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Re: Bloomberg trying to bypass New York law over Flintlock Rifle
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 11:40:24 AM »
 Mere laws don't apply to an Elitist like Bloomberg, who has
Given an interview about the horrors of (recently outlawed ) trans fats while eating a box of Cheez its, loaded with guess what, Trans fats
Solicited felonies by having hired thugs attempt illegal gun purchases at out of state gun stores
Attempted to shake down out of state gun store owners with frivolous lawsuits
And the list goes on.

 

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