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tombogan03884

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Survival: Skills and links
« on: July 31, 2009, 06:32:43 PM »
 Rastus suggested it so here it is
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This is not about fighting off Zombie snipers from Mars. It is about skills and sources for the off grid self sustaining home

http://www.hardenedstructures.com/2050727/default.aspx
This site is included for 2 reasons, Underground houses are the most energy efficient, and this site includes electrical hook up equipment and storage systems

 http://www.bomb-shelter.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=71
More underground structures

Now I'm looking to the rest of you to come up with info on Food  (heirloom seeds for vegetables, methods of preservation )
Energy sources, Wind, solar, steam, water turbines.
Eco friendly waste systems, there are systems the use electricity or gas to incinerate waste so you can safely use it in the garden.
Most sites that will have this type of information are geared toward "Surviving" a nuke war or other disaster but what I'm looking for is simply the way our great grand parents lived. Being able to live comfortably with out depending on any thing out side your property.
   

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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 07:02:37 PM »
Sounds like a good thread. thanks Tom and Rastus.
I second the motion for everyday practical information on being more self suffecient.  Sounds like we want a thread kinda of geared toward Mother Earth News or Backwoods Home.  I use to get Mother Earth years ago and had about 10 years worth of issues at one time.  Starting to sound like a left over hippie from the 70's.  Peace Man!  ;D Lot's of good information, but the ideas that expanded from the information in it could lead to even better ways of doing things.  I may not be able to get off the grid, but I figure the more I can do for myself the better.
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009, 07:04:13 PM »
Rastus suggested it so here it is
Ground rules
This is not about fighting off Zombie snipers from Mars. It is about skills and sources for the off grid self sustaining home




www.zombiesnipersfrommars.com
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 08:09:25 PM »
Two very good ones.

http://www.thereadystore.com/

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/gentleman0711.html?en

A subscription to backwoods home will answer nearly any question you may ever think of, and many you wont think of.

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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2009, 08:18:11 PM »
Somewhere in a box, I have the old Foxfire series books. Notable and very popular back in the day. Still available in print through amazon.

Hog Dressing to cabin building to making soap, even making you own rifle.

I need to pull them out and refresh my memory... Here's a list of important things they cover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxfire_books

# apple butter
# banjos
# basket weaving
# beekeeping
# butter churning
# corn shucking
# dulcimers
# faith healing
# fiddle making
# haints
# American ginseng cultivation
# long rifle and flintlock making
# hide tanning
# hog dressing
# hunting tales
# log cabin building
# moonshining
# midwives
# old-time burial customs
# planting "by the signs"
# preserving foods
# sassafras tea
# snake handling and lore
# soap making
# spinning
# square dancing
# wagon making
# weaving
# wild food gathering

These are based on Appalachian territory, but the skills work anywhere...

Thanks for reminding me about them... I'm still glad I kept them...
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2009, 08:27:02 PM »
I think I have some of those old Foxfire books around also.
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 09:18:28 PM »
Here's a handy item Ping posted about else where just because your off the grid doesn't mean you have to talk to your self, you can still have tunes
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/LOW558-1.html
Back woods man is good I have several back issues that were given to me and every one of them has something useful.
Foxfire books were good too.

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 10:33:51 PM »
http://www.waltonfeed.com/blog/listCategory

Food preservation and storage.
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 10:51:08 PM »
Good thread Tom, here is another site.

http://www.survivalcenter.com/birdflumask.html?idaff=3231
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Re: Survival: Skills and links
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 10:53:08 PM »
First you need shelter, I mentioned somewhere else that underground homes are easy to heat in winter and stay cool in the summer which saves energy. Thats a big plus with todays prices and a bigger plus if you are making your own power.
Here are some links for info.
http://architecture.about.com/cs/greenarchitecture/a/eartharch.htm
http://www.earthshelter.com/
http://www.subsurfacebuildings.com/Links.html

Now you need POWER ! Electricity is the most versatile source of modern energy, it can provide efficient heating and cooling as well as light, but it can also power all of todays modern conveniences, and it is cleaner than any other power source. there are many reasons for getting off the Grid, but the 3 biggest are price increases, location, and reliability. The price of electricity is only going to go up, Some really nice places are just to remote to make grid power practical, and even where it IS available the wires are at the mercy of weather and other types of damage (power here has been knocked out twice by vehicles hitting poles) Here are some options:
http://www.homepower.com/home/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDZISfOtfc
http://www.mrsolar.com/
http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/technology/solar-power/
http://www.awea.org/faq/rsdntqa.html
http://www.windpowerexpo.org/
Now that we have a source of power we can run all sorts of stuff, Battery chargers for  Phones/radios, CD/DVD players, laptop computers and so on. We also have heat for cooking, If we are aiming for self sufficiency we will probably be hunting, fishing and either raising live stock or trading with some one who is. in that case VEGETABLES might not only be good for you, they might will also make good trade goods. Now when we buy tools we always (if we're smart) buy the one that will last a lifetime, well you can do something similar with seeds. Most vegetables that you buy have been Hybridized for color shelf life and other things, BUT, the seeds when planted will often not grow, or will not give good results this is where "heirloom seeds" come in these are old time varieties of veggies that have not been genetically manipulated. If you take the seeds from an Heirloom squash and plant it, you will get exactly the same kind of squash, In effect you buy the seeds once and each crop generates the seeds for the next.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heirloom_plant
http://www.heirloomseeds.com/
http://rareseeds.com/
Fruits and berries for dessert or wine making can also be grown at home.
http://growingtaste.com/fruit.shtml
 Herb gardens are also a very important item for the home
http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/hortcult/herbs/ne208hrb.htm
Then of course there are the wild foods around you. Whats the point of living in a rural area if you never get out in it ? Where you are will determine what plants you have available.
http://theforagerpress.com/fieldguide/guide.htm
http://www.wildfoodadventures.com/

That should be enough to kick off some discussion.  ;D

 

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